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Favourite Multinational Corporation:

McDonald's   16 votes - 12 %
Coca-Cola   19 votes - 14 %
Monsanto   15 votes - 11 %
British Petroleum   9 votes - 6 %
Microsoft   16 votes - 12 %
General Motors   7 votes - 5 %
Walmart   7 votes - 5 %
DeBeers   10 votes - 7 %
Nike   3 votes - 2 %
Scientology   31 votes - 23 %
133 Total Votes

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What the hell? (5.00 / 3) (#1)
by green fighter on Thu Jul 12th, 2001 at 01:59:58 PM PST
By "favourite" do you mean "which one most deserves to have their corporate offices firebombed"? I don't think it's funny to joke (and I hope you are joking) about the evils of globalization.

All these companies you list are responsible for some of the worst human rights and environmental abuses in the world. Please don't falsely paint them in a good light.

Those Fuckers at DeBeers... (none / 0) (#2)
by Electric Angst on Thu Jul 12th, 2001 at 02:20:44 PM PST
Now, I'm not sure if this is true, but I heard it from a reliable source. It could be an urbanlegend, though. I would check it with Scopes, the only problem is that they have a history of being liberal in their interpritations when it comes to large, multinational companies (for example, most of their Disney stuff, they go to great lengths to make the company look as good as possible, same with Coca-Cola...)

Anyways, I was told that the executives of the DeBeers corporation have an "Excape Plan". That at any moment, morning, noon, or night, if they are ever called to court, they have a driver ready, who will immediatly pick them up and take them to the nearest airport, where there will be tickets and a passport waiting for them under an alias that will take them to a safe country.

Those fuckers are some sick sons-of-bitches, and I do honestly hope that they get brought in to some international court and get themselves bitch-slapped...

In the dark times, will there still be singing?
Yes, there will be singing. There will be singing about the dark times. -- Bertolt Brecht

Walmart (none / 0) (#3)
by osm on Thu Jul 12th, 2001 at 02:49:26 PM PST
is practically a shrine.

General Motors? (none / 0) (#4)
by Peter Johnson on Thu Jul 12th, 2001 at 07:22:16 PM PST
When my voice first broke on me, my daddy took me aside and had a little talk. He gave me three pieces of advice:
  1. If you're going to drink, choose your company and buy your own booze.
  2. Never go in the out.
  3. It's better to push a Ford than drive a Chevy.

Now I've had a bit of trouble following advice number one, and I've regretted it afterwards. I've been pretty good about number 2 except this once when I was dating a religious girl who wanted to be a "technical virgin."

But I have never, never, broken rule number 3. Some things are just sacred.

The 3 finest american cars ever made were Fords, and there's a special place in heaven for the boys at Chrysler who designed the Hemi-V8, but anything General Motors is shit and should be left to rust.

Are you adequate?
Are you adequate?

What 3 Fords? (none / 0) (#7)
by typical geek on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 05:31:40 AM PST
count as the finest American made cars? Presumable an early Mustang at least.

gcc is to software freedom as guns are to personal freedom.

3 Finest Fords (none / 0) (#10)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 01:35:18 PM PST
The Fiesta, the Anglia, and the Escort.

You forgot one (none / 0) (#12)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 04:29:59 PM PST
The Ford Thesaurus.

I love the mad cars made in Britain in the 60's and 70's. Due to nationalisation and the resulting complete disregard for the needs of the market, and the terrible state of British industry at the time anyway (pre-Thatcher Britain must have been fun - I remember my mother telling me she tried to buy a particular brand of bread in her local shop only to be told that it wasn't kept in stock anymore because `it is always selling out, which is really annoying`).

Good cars of the period would be such classics as:

Austin Allegro
Robin Reliant (3 Wheeled creature, very popular)
Mini Cooper?

There are many more. 70's British car industry was like a strange mold or subfauna constantly producing bizarre ways of getting from A to B. Still, I suppose the 80's win, if only because of the Sinclair C5 - proof that the free market outdoes the state in everything, including absurdity.

Ford Cortina Mk1 (none / 0) (#17)
by dmg on Mon Jul 16th, 2001 at 09:35:48 AM PST
The Ford Cortina Mk1, and Zephyr Zodiac Sort of poor man's yank tank. The zodiac had the fins, the Cortina has the 'space-age' styling. I learned to drive in a 66 mk1 Cortina with its massively powerful 1495cc engine and steering wheel that came off a bus.

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

Incidentally (none / 0) (#18)
by dmg on Mon Jul 16th, 2001 at 09:39:52 AM PST
I also had a Fiesta RS1800 - the ultimate ford fieasta. It got stolen, stripped for parts, and dumped in a lake while I was skiing in sunny lake tahoe.

Oh well. I remained carless (that is, dead, for any USAians) for a while after that.

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

Well not exactly Ford made... (none / 0) (#11)
by Peter Johnson on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 04:20:50 PM PST
But certainly Ford powered. Here's my list:
  1. Ford GT-40
  2. Shelby Cobra
  3. Shelby Mustang

Are you adequate?
Are you adequate?

American cars leave a lot to be desired (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jul 16th, 2001 at 12:51:38 AM PST
This may be an unpopular opinion ;-)

Most American cars these days suck. I say this following a '97 Neon that didn't make it to 75k without a major oil leak and a '00 Neon in the household fleet that hit a (admittedly sizable) pothole up by Lake Ontario one afternoon, which caused the piece of plastic guarding the air conditioning compressor to come loose and eventually pierce the compressor.

(Troubleshooting that one was fun -- got out of the car a few miles down the road, and there was this... hissing sound. My first guess was something in the refrigerant system, being a JOAT with experience with air conditioning. Eventually, the ultimate test was tried... the engine was started up, and the air conditioning was turned on. Within half a second, "SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!" as this white cloud sprayed into my roommate's face. But I digress.)

Where was I... oh yes.

My '86 Cavalier was a quality vehicle ... it had 140,000 miles and had this annoying problem where it did NOT want to disengage the pawls when coming out of park, but that's to be expected. However, that's one of two exceptions...

My mother's '91 Grand Wagoneer, a luxury SUV before luxury SUV's were cool (and it's functional, too -- it hauls construction materials around, and when towed behind their motorhome, functions as a cargo bay). It's not been TOO bad, aside from the air conditioning giving out around 40,000, an oil leak developing around 75,000, the body sensors going apeshit around 60,000 (NO, THERE IS NOT A REAR LAMP FAILURE!), etc. Annoying, though, to have an old, incontinent sheepdog of a SUV at 85,000. It also gets about 12mpg, but, well, they now have my old Neon for passenger duty.

My dad's '96 Ram's been pretty good... it's a very good, simple truck that still looks great. Its predecessor, a '94 Ram, was also doing good until another driver's error involving checking to make sure you're all clear when backing into a major throughfare.

I'm personally giving Toyota a shot now... I've had a '01 Prius since October, and have had very good luck with it. There was a computer issue and an alignment issue which put unusual wear on the front tires (and made that mad-wasted drive home from a party 70 miles away, at night, in the rain rather fun), but both have been fixed with efficiency and courtesy and at no cost (I didn't even have to *argue* to get the tires replaced).

I also have a 100,000-mile warranty on the experimental stuff and 30,000 miles of free maintenance. I don't forsee much in the way of problems with the experimental stuff, and apparently neither do they.

'course, your mileage may vary. And not buying American cars may cause unintentional consequences in your personal economy. However, this is just my take on it. -rt

Lake Ontario? (none / 0) (#16)
by typical geek on Mon Jul 16th, 2001 at 05:39:48 AM PST
You near Rochester?

gcc is to software freedom as guns are to personal freedom.

you need more (none / 0) (#5)
by alprazolam on Thu Jul 12th, 2001 at 08:53:32 PM PST
beer and pharmaceuticals companies. they're my favorite.

The company formaly known as British Petroleum (none / 0) (#6)
by codemonkey uk on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 01:35:16 AM PST
Is now known as BP plc. And their notas bad as the other petrochemical companies. Esso is the evil one. At least BP is investing in renewable energy sources.

BP has a bad rep (none / 0) (#9)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 10:49:40 AM PST
It is constantly drilling for oil in pristine natural areas. For example, it is currently doing oil exploration off the coast of the Outer Hebrides, one of the most unspoiled (both culturally and environmentally) regions of the UK.

The oil fields they have discovered there are very large, just as large as those in the North Sea, but this time in the Atlantic. What effect will this have on local communities? We have already seen that Shetland has suffered culturally from an influx of immigrants and oil wealth.

OTOH, these regions also suffer from outsiders who want to keep them pristine and as they are, because they like the romantic idea of the noble savage I assume. It is a difficult field, and also the sort of thing that companies like BP plunge into head first without thought.

Let's see, NT 4.0 SP 5.0, IE 5.5 (none / 0) (#8)
by typical geek on Fri Jul 13th, 2001 at 07:18:45 AM PST
I think MS is my favorite multinational of those listed.

gcc is to software freedom as guns are to personal freedom.

How can the products of MS compare... (none / 0) (#13)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Jul 14th, 2001 at 07:19:52 AM PST a handful of diamonds from DeBeers, or a revving Mustang raring for the off, or sumptious wines made from GM-modified-for-your-pleasure grapes?

You have your priorities all wrong, Mr G**k.

AOL Time Warner (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jul 16th, 2001 at 12:34:30 AM PST
Where's AOL Time Warner? They're certainly multinational, and boy, do they leave a lot to be loved.


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