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 Lesbian Parenting and the Myth of Gay Children

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Aug 12, 2002
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In a recent issue of the Village Voice, in an article entitled "Lesbian Mothers Making Men", Peggy Drexler examines the controversial cultural phenomenon of lesbian couples raising boys. Drexler clearly approves of such child rearing and ultimately explodes the myth that boys raised by lesbians must inevitably grow up to be gay themselves, and yet her conclusion is rooted in neither empirical study nor normative argument.

What follows is a persuasive argument for why and how boys raised by lesbians are indeed less likely to become homosexual themselves.

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The origins of homosexual desire are a subject of great political and academic dispute. Yet, it would hardly be productive to begin with arguments about whether sexuality is innate and unchanging from birth or the product of ongoing complex social phenomena, because only an imbecile would adopt the former position in preference to the latter.

Since environmental factors are the predominant if not the only cause of homosexuality, there emerges an inescapable conclusion: growing up with heterosexual parents sets a bad example for boys, because they are exposed first hand to the supposed normalcy of their mother's relationship with their father, encouraging them to consider sexual relationships of their own with men. Far better to have lesbian parents, where the pervasiveness of female sexuality leaves little or no room for developing sexual attraction to men.

Boys raised by male fathers are placed in a sexually ambiguous position. Though the clinical literature often focuses on the so-called Oedipal complex wherein the young boy desires to kill his father and displace him as the mother's sexual mate, this theoretical framework downplays the boy's inclinations to sexually idolize his father as his mother's sexual champion. Through this sexual idolization, the boy might develop an unhealthy attachment to that figure, which, however sublimated, makes a poor and even dangerous substitute for a healthy sexual relationship with women.

As far as it concerns lesbian parents, there is little room for an Oedipal complex to take root. Whom would the violence be directed at? Neither parent poses a male rival, and both are equally sexually receptive. Indeed, the optimal subconscious strategy for such a boy is to preserve both their lives so they may both be bound in sexual slavery to their son.

Just as most heterosexual women, upon discovering a homosexual man immediately set upon him in an attempt to "convert" him to heterosexuality, the analogous impulses heterosexual men feel for lesbians is no less fierce. Imagine, then, the experience of a young man being reared by and in the constant presence of two lesbians, two tempting objects of sexual conversion. Where would room remain for sexual thoughts of men?

It is an undisputed fact that the incongruous presence of lesbian sex in heterosexual pornography stems from a conscious effort by directors to distract male viewers (by providing respite from) the undue homosexual influence of throbbing turgid cocks and gushing torrents of salty steaming semenal ejaculations. Is it any wonder that so many boys, who inevitable stumble across their heterosexual parents copulating, struck by their fathers' masculinity, spend the rest of their lives haunted by that incident, vicariously reliving it through homosexual trysts with other men?

For a boy raised by lesbian parents, the opportunity arises, since at most, his sexual desire for women will only be further inflamed by such an incident, and at worst, he will spend the rest of his life seeking sexual encounters with two women simultaneously, which will place him in the company of only absolutely every other heterosexual man on this green earth.

Only by eliminating all heterosexual parental couples can we hope to spare boys (and ultimately men) from the scourge of homosexuality. Though it may prove difficult to wean women off their accustomed heterosexual indulgences, women are by their nature reasonable (and sexually curious) creatures who, when provided with all the pertinent facts, must consequently agree of the wisdom of this approach. Anything else would be a pronouncement of eternal homosexuality for all mankind.


Logical inconsistency (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Aug 12th, 2002 at 12:46:50 PM PST
By "eliminating all heterosexual parental couples" you eliminate any breeding grounds for your so-called heterosexual men. If all the women are dykes, the men will DEFINITELY go gay.


You don't understand. (5.00 / 2) (#3)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Aug 12th, 2002 at 01:20:16 PM PST
Once all the women are lesbians, all a male will have to do is show up at the door in a tank top and a tool belt and offer to "fix" their "plumbing," and wild heterosexual frivoloties, as well as the requisite hot hot lesbian action, will occur.

Don't you know anything?


New Sex-Ed? (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by MessiahWWKD on Mon Aug 12th, 2002 at 05:45:25 PM PST
Perhaps schools should seek videos in which this act is displayed to help children adapt to the new lesbian parenting.
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You people are so fun (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Aug 12th, 2002 at 06:35:49 PM PST



 
Straight Porn Is Pretty Gay... (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by faustus on Mon Aug 12th, 2002 at 05:55:51 PM PST
I enjoyed you informative article, imagine having two lipstick lesbian mom's, one of which isn't even related to you by blood? Talk about an incentive to get a female mate!

I have thought about how "gay" straight porn actually is. It's preceived as very heterosexual, and yet the main selling point for straight porn is the size of the male actors phalic member. The whole thing is centered around the man's member. It must get more screen time than the female's gentials and breasts combined.

This straight porn "gayness" reafirms my belief that everyone is secretly bisexual.


--You seem to be suffering from a liberal-arts education.

Gayness (none / 0) (#8)
by Rex Monday on Tue Aug 13th, 2002 at 07:13:04 AM PST
Sir,

Language is not merely a set of words and rules, but rather a sort of ecosystem, economy, ritual, or hive-mind. Nevertheless, there are occasions when my inner maven is provoked beyond any reasonable measure.

I believe that the abstract noun you're striving for is "gaiety".


Don't be a tool. (none / 0) (#31)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 03:07:54 PM PST
"Gaiety" refers to happiness and merrymaking, not sexuality. "Gayness" conveys the meaning he intends just fine, especially if you, a prescriptivist critic, were able to understand it.


 
The Gay Agenda Returns (none / 0) (#12)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 08:50:40 AM PST
This straight porn "gayness" reafirms my belief that everyone is secretly bisexual.


I personally believe that it is another attempt by the homosexual media to gather more recruitments into the homosexual lifestyle. It is clear that these "straight" pornographic movies are doused with many subliminal homoerotic messages. Since the government is too corrupt to outlaw pornographic material altogether, perhaps we should fight to raise the age at which an individual can view pornographic material. It should be an age at which the individual is comfortable with his heterosexuality and is not vulnerable to propoganda.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

The Gay Consipiracy (none / 0) (#32)
by Naive Fool on Mon Aug 26th, 2002 at 07:52:52 PM PST
Oh yeah, the gay consipiracy, based in area 54, are all over the place hunting recruits. The very sight of a penis, testical or manly pectoral muscle is a blatant attempt to convert innocent straight men to their corrupt and lawless lifestyle. It is clear that the only truly straight porn involves only lesbians. The homosexual conspiracy behind straight porn? Yeah, and the racist conspiracy behind affirmative action. They're right up there with the Palestinian-Alien alliance.


 
Restraining Sexuality is the Problem. (5.00 / 2) (#7)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Aug 12th, 2002 at 11:24:42 PM PST
The problem here lies with the artificial and constraining definitions like "heterosexuality" and "homosexuality".

We need to move beyond such constraints on our potentially polymorphous and wide-ranging sexuality.

For example, I was raised on a small farm in New Zealand. My parents split up when I was very young, and my father became intimate with a fetching young sheep named Clover. As I grew up, my father encouraged me to think of Clover as my "mother" and I did. As a matter of fact, I am wearing a pair of socks right now that came right off mom's back!

My father never pressured me to engage in man-sheep love myself, and always told me to follow my heart, and seek out intimate partners who appealed to me, regardless of who or what they are.

Now I am a grown man. Throughout my adulthood, I have enjoyed passionate, playful, naughty, and tender sexual encounters with women, men, llamas, bottles, catfish, naugahyde furniture, and several other lovers.

Just this afternoon I was in the supermarket, when a sexy, plump squash caught my eye. Just by the way it perched there on top of the pile I could tell it wanted me. I have it sitting on my kitchen counter as I type this. I can't wait to take its firm ripe flesh in my trembling hands and... well, I'll leave that to your imaginations. :)


Yet another reason to hate those bloody Europeans. (none / 0) (#14)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 08:54:51 AM PST
[n/t]
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

Right! There aren't any queers in America, (none / 0) (#15)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 09:21:56 AM PST
because the Republicans shot them all.
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Are you George W. Bush? (none / 0) (#16)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 10:09:16 AM PST
Because you're obviously an idiot. If you read the post, you'd have noticed that the New Zealander condones a variety of abusive acts toward animals. Of course, I guess with you Europeans, that's completely normal. I can't wait until we bomb the Hell out of you.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

It's not abusive to animals, (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by because it isnt on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 12:08:26 PM PST
if the sheep is leading him on, as the sultry little beasts often do.

"Mommy! Why are the Republicans shooting us?"

"Because we don't worship their God, dear."
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That's the same logic... (none / 0) (#18)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 02:12:58 PM PST
That child molestors use. No wonder Europe is the world capital for child pornography.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

There's a difference. (5.00 / 1) (#20)
by because it isnt on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 04:42:35 PM PST
Unlike young children, sheep can't speak, so they use the "universal language".

Actually, I suppose that applies to spazzy kids as well. Ha ha! I crack myself up at times.
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And you think Adequacy's bad? (none / 0) (#22)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 05:02:12 PM PST
At least Adequacy is intelligent and tasteful in its controversy.
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OPEN DOOR; SOUTH (5.00 / 1) (#23)
by because it isnt on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 05:12:27 PM PST
>LOOK

You are in a intelligent discussion about all children being brought up by lesbians.

>KICK CHEAP CONTROVERSY

The controversy dodges, insisting this is incorrect procedure.

>HIT JOKE WITH STICK

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What the Hell are you talking about? (none / 0) (#24)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 05:52:02 PM PST
I don't speak Virginese.
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It's always great to have a straightman. (none / 0) (#25)
by because it isnt on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 06:22:58 PM PST
No puns intended.
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Think twice about this (5.00 / 1) (#26)
by Juan Fernandez on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 08:56:27 PM PST
"...At least Adequacy is intelligent and tasteful in its controversy"
Sure it is. But you can bet you have nothing to do with this fact, Madam.


 
You mean... (5.00 / 1) (#28)
by jvance on Fri Aug 16th, 2002 at 11:03:07 AM PST
...like this article?
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New Zealand isn't in Europe. (none / 0) (#30)
by Anonymous Reader on Wed Aug 21st, 2002 at 02:31:46 PM PST
Just FYI, so you can direct your mindless hatred in the proper direction.


 
Scientific Method (none / 0) (#9)
by Rex Monday on Tue Aug 13th, 2002 at 08:23:58 AM PST
Sir,

Whilst you make a strong case that mantle of parenting menfolk should be assumed solely by lesbian "couples", I fear that your seemingly reasonable proposal, like that of Socialism, may have unforseen consequences, deleterious to both the individual children concerned and thence, when they reach the age of majority, the welfare of society as a whole. Far too often has well-intentioned liberal meddling, though proceeding from sound principles, wreaked psychological havoc with the very individuals it sought to protect and promote. History is riddled through with such seemingly benign interventions gone sour. If an example is needed, consider the Science of Eugenics. In the hands of a bungling Nanny State, this perfectly respectable theory swiftly led to the excessive praxis of the Nazi Holocaust.

Are we then doomed to repeat such gaffs in our unending and characteristically human quest for Utopia? Not at all. A simple but scientific pilot study, bridging the perilous gap between theory and practice, would suffice to prove your case.

A number, say 45, of lesbian "couples" should be extracted from the general population. The "wife" should then be inseminated with seed drawn from a random pool. Note that the term "wife", is used functionally here, to connote the unemployed "partner". In case both "partners" are unemployed, the most feminine should be chosen. The breeding pairs should then be transported to a camp where their progress may be scrutinized in a properly scientistic manner. In due course the sexuality of their children may be tested using anatomically correct dolls and testicular biopsies.

I realise that this experiment will be both costly and time-consuming, but we would be foolish indeed to ignore History's warning.


 
You're all living in a fantasy. (none / 0) (#10)
by Narcissus on Tue Aug 13th, 2002 at 09:56:49 AM PST
Better yet you all see life as a porn movie. From what I've experienced in my life, an believe me I've seen many Lesbos while umpiring softball, the majority of the true lesbians (not the bisexual cuties who want to get back at daddy) are butch, ugly she-men who for the life of them probably couldn't get a man if they wanted to.

You're article seems to me to be lacking this insight. In a true lesbian home I would venture to guess that the boy is more likely to go queer because of his prolonged exposure to a double dose in the life of an ugly woman.


--------------------------------
Ok, who picked the flower???

You seem to be missing the point (none / 0) (#11)
by Amitabh Bachan on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 12:10:55 AM PST
The idea is that the lesbian couples will be gathered from the current heterosexual female population - thus there is a good chance that a child will end up with a pair of bi cuties. The current freaks of nature that you mention are part of the problem that Rosalyn is attempting to solve.

To increase the odds of couples consisting of hot chicks perhaps only cute asians should be considered?


 
More Hateful Stereotypes (none / 0) (#13)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 08:53:36 AM PST
Better yet you all see life as a porn movie. From what I've experienced in my life, an believe me I've seen many Lesbos while umpiring softball, the majority of the true lesbians (not the bisexual cuties who want to get back at daddy) are butch, ugly she-men who for the life of them probably couldn't get a man if they wanted to.


Do you also believe that all Hispanics are lazy and all African Americans are violent? Your ignorant stereotypes are not only childish, but they are also not wanted in this mature forum.
Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

A story. (none / 0) (#19)
by hauntedattics on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 03:05:14 PM PST
Last summer I was in Montreal with my husband and some friends. After a lovely brunch, we walked downtown to the Gay Pride parade, which mostly consisted of not particularly outrageous drag queen acts on floats and painfully obvious corporate courting.

One group that marched in the parade, however, was called the "Lesbian Mothers of Quebec" or some such. As they walked by, my gay friend leaned over to me and said, "Haunted, why do lesbians have to be so ugly?"

I couldn't tell him.



The Gay Opinion? (none / 0) (#21)
by MessiahWWKD on Wed Aug 14th, 2002 at 05:00:18 PM PST
Are you an idiot? Of course a homosexual will not find a woman attractive. That's why they're gay in the first place! Would you ask a straight guy his opinion on a gay pornographic movie? Considering that you found a plethora of attractive women ugly, I'm beginning to think that you might be gay as well.
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (none / 0) (#27)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Aug 15th, 2002 at 01:40:32 AM PST
Lesbians are hot, d00d! Check out this solid piece of ass! I'd do 'er in a sewer! W00t w00t w00t!!!!!!!


 
Hmm. (none / 0) (#29)
by hauntedattics on Mon Aug 19th, 2002 at 09:22:35 AM PST
As a straight female, (see the operative word "husband" in the above story) I may not be overly qualified to judge the attractiveness of a group of other women. My bad.



 
Am I on Kuro5hin? (none / 0) (#33)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Aug 27th, 2002 at 11:45:36 AM PST
I thought this was supposed to be adequacy. Liberal articles aren't posted here!


 

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