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Hackers are..?
Intellectual Property thieves. 36%
Linux users. 13%
Both (a) and (b) 50%

Votes: 22

 5,000 posts. ~5,000 idiots.

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
May 16, 2002
T Reginald Gibbon's informative story on computer hacking has reached new heights. As of today, May 15th 2002, it has reached 5,000 posts.

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As a regular reader of Adequacy, I must congratulate Mr. Gibbons on a fine article. Reading the comments is further testament that the Internet is full of idiots, perpetuators of hate, and criminal hackers who try to justify their hacker tools.

I find it amazing that people continue to rebut Mr. Gibbons even after his article has clearly been proven to be true. Thanks to Mr. Gibbons' masterpiece, an investigation was launched into AMD's shady Malaysian sweatshops.

Once again, thank you Mr. Gibbons, for enlightening us all.


OK Let's Look Back, Shall We? (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu May 16th, 2002 at 04:51:07 PM PST
Flash as a hacker tool, eh? Telnet a hacker tool? Why did Microsoft include it with Windows?

Asking for new hardware? I suppose Windows 95 and Windows XP have the same system requirements, and the upgrade did not need any new hardware.

Spending more than 30 minutes on the computer. Sucks if he has a report to finish, eh?

Changing his appearance? As if a child would want to wear the same type of clothes between the ages of 13 and 19.

Let's not forget the "Soviet" hacker "Linyos Torovoltos"

I'm sure there were lots of people defending the article - you calling them idiots too. Of course you did say "around 5000 idiots".

This article made the laughing stock of the Web. A quick check of Google reveals around 175 pages linking the URL, and over a thousand linking with the title. Most of those essentially say for a good laugh, read the article.

This post is copyright of Anonymous Reader. You may not delete, alter or otherwise change this post and its contents without the express written permission of Anonymous Reader.

30 minutes for a paper? (5.00 / 2) (#2)
by gNinja on Thu May 16th, 2002 at 11:30:41 PM PST
You must be completely naive to think modern day high school students spend anywhere near 30 minutes on a paper. If a high school student spends more than 20 minutes at a computer, you can be certain he is either doing something illegal or looking at porn.

So (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 12:39:14 PM PST
Let's say a 2000 word paper.

Let's say 15 minutes for the typing and 5 minutes for any formatting.

So that's 133 WPM straight for 15 minutes and madly formatting for 5 minutes.

That does not include any proofreading or anything.

You may be able to do 133 WPM with no errors straight for 15 minutes, but I doubt many high school students can.

2000 word paper? (none / 0) (#12)
by tkatchev on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 12:50:49 PM PST
Dude, what country are you from?

Wherever you live, it must be some incredibly advanced technocratic paradise, you know, with the pale black-eyed hydrocephalic aliens.

For normal people, a 2000 word paper is enough to qualify for a grad-school diploma project, or something.

Peace and much love...

maybe things are different in Russia (none / 0) (#13)
by nathan on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 03:05:35 PM PST
For one thing, it may be that Russian is more terse than English - I have no idea. But I've written five thousand-word research papers for undergraduate courses, although fifteen hundred to two thousand-word papers are more the norm. It depends on the subject and the scope of the question to be studied.

Mind you, most North Americans just pad their papers with guff and bafflegab to reach these inflated numbers. My favorite college paper was in a philosophy course, for which we were held to a twelve hundred-word limit but expected to fully address four specific aspects of the issue. I had about three words to spare by the time I'd clearly and specifically answered the question. I wish more professors wrote such well-designed questions.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

No, wait. (none / 0) (#15)
by tkatchev on Sat May 18th, 2002 at 12:13:28 AM PST
You're studying for a liberal-arts degree, if I'm not mistaken; so, necessarily, you will need to write more words.

For a technical subject it is a little bit easier and more relaxed. (Although, to be honest, anything less than 2000 words is probably too short...)

Peace and much love...

good point (none / 0) (#16)
by nathan on Sat May 18th, 2002 at 01:55:03 AM PST
I might remind you, I hold a liberal-arts degree. I am studying for a professional graduate degree, but my paper-writing days are more or less over.

When I was a university sciences student, I never wrote up anything more substantial than lab reports; I changed horses too early in the stream, as it were. In so-called high school we wrote long papers that were full of crap, fluff, and errors, but for science classes it was just lab reports and sometimes literature reports. My high school science classes were mostly about exams.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

5001 [n/t] (4.80 / 5) (#3)
by jsm on Thu May 16th, 2002 at 11:42:26 PM PST

... the worst tempered and least consistent of the editors
... now also Legal department and general counsel,

No way! (none / 0) (#4)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 02:06:28 AM PST
Most of those essentially say for a good laugh, read the article.

But... everything posted on the adequacy is %100 true!

Flash is a hacker tool. (none / 0) (#6)
by First Incision on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 07:40:14 AM PST
In fact, I just used a Flash program yesterday to generate a credit card number.
Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

Flash... (none / 0) (#7)
by budlite on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 08:25:15 AM PST
...isn't a hacker tool. It's just REALLY fucking annoying.

Correction. (none / 0) (#8)
by because it isnt on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 09:14:24 AM PST
Flash is a tool. If a hacker uses it, it's a hacker tool. It is not "really fucking annoying", but there are "really fucking annoying" web designers who create "really fucking annoying" things using flash. There are works of genius created with flash as well. -- because it isn't

Fair enough (none / 0) (#14)
by budlite on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 03:11:22 PM PST
Flash can be entertaining, but unforunately good Flash sites appear to be very much in the minority.

Of course... (none / 0) (#10)
by First Incision on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 11:12:21 AM PST
I was doing nothing illegal, I was merely using ShopSafe to generate temporary numbers for online purchases at shady small companies. The number generation runs of on Macromedia Flash. So Flash isn't all crap, art, and crappy art. It can also be used to grease the wheels of capitalism.
Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

No, not 5000. (5.00 / 1) (#5)
by em on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 03:49:36 AM PST
There are actually over 7,000 there if you count deleted comments (which don't really go away, but rather are only visible to editors).

The funniest thing by now really is people on Usenet or webboards rediscovering it, posting a link, and then getting some 1337er-th4n-th0u kid snap at them: "That's an old link. I saw it when it first came out a year ago/18 months ago".

And here's my favorite.
Associate Editor,

I salute you T. Reginald Gibbons! (none / 0) (#9)
by Prof Jefferson Arthur C Kensington on Fri May 17th, 2002 at 09:57:58 AM PST
I sure hope spiralx includes it on his list of trolls. The first time I read it I fell over laughing, the same went to the second time I read it. As I was rereading it now I didn't laugh as hard but had quite a chuckle.

I dare say that what Mr. T. Reginald Gibbons wrote was the most fantastic article EVER written - one that shall etch his name in all internet lore books along with Kibology, the Internet Oracle and The Jargon File.

I'm only my way to make a mirror of that page on all my sites (including my work URL) just in case something happens to dearest Adequacy.

T. Reginald Gibbons, Aves Trollicus Natituri Te Salutan!
"Random numbers are not really random, they're just numbers."
- Jefferson A. C. Kensington, 1993, "Lectures on Applied Mathematics".

Question (5.00 / 1) (#17)
by ausduck on Sun May 19th, 2002 at 10:35:36 AM PST
If what you didn't delete is "The guy who wrote this article is a luser. Flash a hacker tool? ROFL!!!", how could two THOUSAND comments deserve deletion?

Trolling, mostly. (5.00 / 1) (#18)
by RobotSlave on Sun May 19th, 2002 at 01:55:51 PM PST
It's difficult to enforce the no-trolling policy here at adequacy, especially when an article has prompted so many responses. Trolls seem to find a large audience like that irresistable, and they show up in force.

It's gruelling work, I tell you, keeping the troll out, for he is legion, and we are but an enlightened few. We've drawn our line in the sand, though, and we'll defend it to the death.

© 2002, RobotSlave. You may not reproduce this material, in whole or in part, without written permission of the owner.

Deletions (5.00 / 1) (#19)
by T Reginald Gibbons on Sun May 19th, 2002 at 03:52:30 PM PST
As I understand it, most of the deletions contained overt and graphic death threats aimed at myself and, or Australian slang expressions that no one finds amusing.

Flash for Non-Hackers (none / 0) (#20)
by First Incision on Sun May 19th, 2002 at 09:33:28 PM PST
Finally, a useful page using Flash

How Machine Guns Work

Just click on the trigger!
Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.


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