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Which one?
Klein 0%
Conklin 0%
Timtone 100%
Novax 0%
Other (please comment) 0%

Votes: 5

 I need your help

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Apr 04, 2002
to pick a new guitar out.

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Please indulge me. I am torn between some very nice instruments. I don't necessarily care if you know anything about guitar in general, because some of the concerns are logistical.

I want to get something a little different. I've been playing for around 8 years, and I have one archtop and one regular electric. So I need to diversify my stuff. Also, a guitar with more than six strings would be a nice challenge for me (not that I've mastered six--no one has).

Klein Electric

    Pros -- Lightweight, tremolo bar (I haven't had one in so long), clean sound
    Cons -- It's still a pretty 'regular' guitar, kinda ugly (especially the yellow color)
    Price -- around $3200

Conklin 8-string

    Pros -- 8 strings, fanned frets (notes more accurate), nice-looking
    Cons -- No tremolo, fanned-frets might suck
    Price -- around $3900

Timtone 11-string

    Pros -- 11 strings, 4 outputs, huge sound
    Cons -- No tremolo, 3 year waiting list(!)
    Price -- around $8000

Novax Charlie Hunter Model

    Pros -- 8 strings, 2 outputs, fanned frets
    Cons -- No tremolo, again--fanned frets might suck
    Price -- $3200

So what do you guys think?


Why not go digital ? (none / 0) (#1)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 03:35:50 PM PST
Get a midi guitar.

Personal taste. (none / 0) (#5)
by derek3000 on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 04:33:32 PM PST
I'm not really into digital stuff too much, but the Timtone was built so a midi pickup could be put on it at a later time.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.

"Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

Wow (none / 0) (#2)
by Fon2d2 on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 04:03:18 PM PST
I am fascinated by that 11-string. I've never seen anything like it. I would pay money just to try it out. Are there any links to any songs played on it? I would like to see what this thing sounds like and what kind of music it can produce. My vote is definitely for the Timtone 11-string.

I was afraid you would say that. (none / 0) (#3)
by derek3000 on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 04:31:25 PM PST
Here is the page with some mp3s on it. Ryan's are at the bottom.

I would do it in a heartbeat, but 3 years is a long time. And most of the other chop shops out there wouldn't have the first clue as to what to do.

"Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

Ickh (none / 0) (#13)
by gzt on Sat Apr 6th, 2002 at 02:58:58 PM PST
The instrument sounded nice, and the guy has some skill, but the music was crap. What a waste.

Maybe he should've bought ET toys instead.


Whoa (none / 0) (#4)
by gzt on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 04:31:31 PM PST
I agree about that 11-string demon. It looks oh-so-sweet.

You might also want to look at megatars. Two-handed tapping! Very interesting.

Oh, fanned frets aren't for increased accuracy, but for better bass notes. They make the bass strings a little longer and then fan the frets to make up the distance. I don't know much else.

I don't know... if that's unobtainable, the Conklin looks good, too.

Make sure whatever you purchase has a Feiten Tuning System.

That 11-string thing will haunt me for months. Gravy!


Feiten Tuning (none / 0) (#8)
by Fon2d2 on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 10:13:21 AM PST
Keep in mind with the Feiten Tuning System that it is mathematically impossible to achieve pure intonation for every key with any kind of fixed pitch instrument, including all fretted instruments. The Feiten Tuning System is not, as may be gleaned by reading the homepage, nor could it be a fix for this problem. Rather, it is a complicated set of rules for constructing and tuning the guitar which results in what Feiten deems as an "extraordinarily pleasing intonation". A note a major 3rd above the root of any key would still have to be, on average, 14 cents sharp. That is a number far greater than any of the adjustments Feiten lays out in his patent application which makes me suspicious of the practicallity of using such a system. Besides, if such exacting control over the quality of the music is that important, it may be more worthwhile to look into fretless instruments.

If I had to pick (none / 0) (#6)
by Ben Reid on Thu Apr 4th, 2002 at 05:25:51 PM PST
I'd probably go with the Conklin or the Novax. Fanned frets are kinda crazy but as gzt said, you can really getter a better base sound once you learn it (not speaking from personal experience mind you).

I'm looking at alternative stuff at the moment too (custom slide guitars etc) and have been mucking around with all sorts of weird tunings. Good for expanding your range or style but not so great for having a jam with the crew!

And the 11 string, wow, never seen something like that before, that's really getting into wacko territory. I hate tuning up so it would probably drive me nuts.

Maybe you can help me out too, my electric collection currently stands at one crusty old Rockwood Hohner (no don't laugh).

I had an Ibanez (ES series) back in the day when I thought power chords were the pinnacle of guitar playing. Then I got a Fender Telecaster, but now the cupboard is essentially bare.

If I was to spend 3 or more G's on an electric right now, I'd be going straight for a PRS. Something like this would be sweet. Ever since playing a friend's PRS a few years back, I've wanted to get one.

This must be rectified! (none / 0) (#7)
by budlite on Fri Apr 5th, 2002 at 02:44:26 AM PST
Maybe you can help me out too, my electric collection currently stands at one crusty old Rockwood Hohner (no don't laugh).

Oh dear! I can only hope it's better quality than the Hohner acoustic I have. Thankfully, I don't need to use it now that I have a Fender DG3 acoustic, and Mex. Stratocaster electric.

Not exactly THE pinnacle of guitar playing, but I'm very much an amateur and they see me through just fine.

Talking of these guitars here, the 11-string one is kerrazee, but I like it's general style, it's nicer than the one at the top of the list (the standard 6-string).

The only person who could ever miss with this gun (none / 0) (#9)
by elenchos on Sat Apr 6th, 2002 at 05:21:19 AM PST the sucker with enough bread to buy it.

--Peter, Dawn of the Dead

I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

I understand your jealousy. (none / 0) (#10)
by derek3000 on Sat Apr 6th, 2002 at 10:19:27 AM PST
It's just that I've worked hard over the past 9 years to hone my skill. I deserve this.

I you ever want to know what that feels like, just email me.

"Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie

Someone of your discriminating tastes... (none / 0) (#11)
by elenchos on Sat Apr 6th, 2002 at 01:56:49 PM PST
...would probably be interseted in the refined pleasures of owning the new, highly advanced Telefunken3004rse.

It has all the features you are looking for.

I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

Oh, now I see. (none / 0) (#12)
by derek3000 on Sat Apr 6th, 2002 at 02:19:11 PM PST
How proletarian of you.

Maybe the commie site is where you really belong.

"Feel me when I bring it!" --Gay Jamie


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