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Linux Zealot in the Future

Author:

flarners

Topic:

Linux Zealot

Posted:

Jan 14, 2002

Comments:

118

One of the primary topics of my PhD thesis in anthropology deals with the users of Lorenzo Torrovádez'¹ hacker operating system Linux. During my research, I have uncovered several interesting disorders which cripple the minds of all Linux zealots. For one, Linux zealots are entirely resistant to change or progress of any sort. They tend to spend as much of their times as possible in their parents' basements, where the scenery seldom changes. They refuse to adopt new technologies such as graphical user interfaces or 3D graphics acceleration. They even refuse to change their own clothes, no matter how rank and disgusting they become.

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A lot of this behaviour can be traced back to the shortcomings of the open-source development model. Due to its chaotic and unstructured nature, Linux and other open-source projects evolve at a much slower rate than their closed-source counterparts. Linux zealots, afraid of change and unable to afford superior proprietary products, instead make up strings of excuses in a vain attempt to convince themselves that their free software is better.

But my words are boring you. My thesis can be best represented in the following high-quality cartoon.

Footnotes:
¹ Note that "Lorenzo Torrováldez" is only one of many possible transliterations from the original Southeastern Armenian alphabet of Torrováldez' birthplace. Do not flame me for spelling errors; I am aware that there more common transliterations, but my own is closer aesthetically to the Armenian original.
² Segway® is a registered trademark of Dean Kamen. Rosie and The Jetsons™ are trademarks of Hanna-Barbera Corporation. Linux® is a trademark of Lorenzo Torrováldez. Linux Zealot® is a registered trademark of Adequacy.org. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

	and you sir (none / 0) (#10)
	by Husaria on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 02:48:56 PM PST

	no nothing of proper grammer or spelling Sig sigger

	SPELLING FALME (none / 0) (#11)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 03:08:57 PM PST

	LISTEN U NO TAHT SPELING IS NOT IMPORTANT AND ANYWAYS ENGLISH SI NOT MY FRIST LANGAGE SO BITE IT! EGNLISH SPELING IS REDICULUS = [doesn't make sesne] OSM YOU BICH STOP FALMING LINUX [NOT LUNIX

	JeffK (none / 0) (#13)
	by Yoshi on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 04:21:03 PM PST

	JeffK was funny.... never. Please, move along, and emulate someone or something of equal maturity. Maybe you can revive the "all your base" fever.

	Really? (none / 0) (#74)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 12:41:46 PM PST

	JeffK? I must be showing my age, I thought it was `B1FF`.

	Greatest LZ Ever (none / 0) (#12)
	by MessiahWWKD on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 03:49:53 PM PST

	This is truly a masterpiece. Besides the excellent of a very possible future, unless the liberals are able to break up Microsoft and anoint Steve "Dead Beat Dad" Jobs as their new god, I also love the translucent backgrounds, which cannot be done in Linux due to the limitations of X10. The art is spectacular. It was obviously done by a professional. Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

	A request (5.00 / 2) (#14)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 05:42:18 PM PST

	I enjoy reading insightful technical articles like this one, however in future I hope the staff could refrain from posting such vulgar and disturbing imagery right on the front page. Thank you.

	I apologise; there should have been a warning. (none / 0) (#16)
	by flarners on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 06:00:21 PM PST

	But alas, sometimes otherwise inappropriate content must be linked to for the sake of making a point. (Don't click that link, btw.) -- I told everyone we should have a witch-hunt, but they wanted to have a good old-fashioned book burning instead

	about Linux (none / 0) (#15)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 05:56:18 PM PST

	First of all I would like to start out by saying that I to have am writing my thesis for my Ph.D., my second Ph.D. I find your comments about Linux to be very amusing, and somewhat scary. Amusing because it is obvious that you know absolutely nothing about computers, specifically, Operating Systems, Scary because you may actually believe that what your saying isn't TOTAL B.S. I happen to be a very avid user of Windows operating systems. I can tell from reading your passage that you have never used a finished version of the Linux Operating System. Unlike most Windows models, Linux is able to run for longer times with little or no crashes or what Windows refers to as "Blue Screens of Death". Linux has better security systemsa and standards along with sophisticated software interfaces. All in all i would rank Linux as equal, if not better than Windows. By the way, to those Adults that may be readind this site to learn about computers. I STRONGLY suggest that you stear clear of these particular Stereotyping Websites. And Finally, Linux is not a hacking Tool, not is it used by hackers to gain access to others computers. This is because windows operating sytems make it much easier to use Trojan Virues, Worms, and DOSing programs. If any hacker chooses to use Linux it would have to do with the knowledge they have about the securest operating systems....LINUX

	la-la-la (5.00 / 1) (#17)
	by osm on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 06:29:09 PM PST

	First of all I would like to start out by saying that I to have am writing my thesis for my Ph.D. In what? Hallucinogenics Studies? I hope your thesis doesn't exhibit the grammar and spelling of a twelve year old. Not to mention it would be nice if it had some fucking W H I T E S P A C E. because you may actually believe that what your saying isn't TOTAL B.S. Yeah, God forbid somebody actually say what they think. (incidentally "your" should be "you're"). Linux has better security systemsa and standards along with sophisticated software interfaces. Better than what? An Atari 2600? Hell, that isn't even true. I STRONGLY suggest that you stear clear of these particular Stereotyping Websites. Quite the contrary, this is exactly the sort of website such a person should visit. We give you the facts. Plain and simple. No sugar coating. No gooey nuget. No political correctness. This is the world at its rawest form. People should come to this place if they want the facts without the sort of blind zealotry you share with our friend Linux Zealot. And Finally, Linux is not a hacking Tool, not is it used by hackers to gain access to others computers. If that sentence made any sense at all, I'm sure it would be a complete lie. This is because windows operating sytems make it much easier to use Trojan Virues, Worms, and DOSing programs. Very funny. I've never once had such problems with Windows, while every linux system I've seen running was plagued with all manner of system-crushing problems. For the love of God, it actually ENCOURAGES multiple users per system!! What the hell kind of security is that??

	pipe down (1.00 / 2) (#25)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:54:22 PM PST

	Oh shut up osm. You know even less than the other cosksuckers that "run" this site. The only editor/system admin with any decent knowledge would be elby. It amazes me how you all can claim to be intellectuals but you spend all day here. Do you have jobs?

	I object! (5.00 / 2) (#30)
	by nathan on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:11:55 PM PST

	Although I do not run this site, I am compelled to stand up for osm. What's wrong with sucking cosks? Indeed, many of our nation's finest frat boys have sucked many a pint of creamy, frothy amber liquid out of stout, rotund cosks; not excluding the President of the USA, I'm sure. Is there any sight so stirring to the eye as a freshly-tapped cosk bursting forth, erumpent, full-bodied, virile? (The answer is, "no, there is not," by the way.) Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	No, There Is Not (none / 0) (#34)
	by doofus on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 09:11:31 PM PST

	Is there any sight so stirring to the eye as a freshly-tapped cosk bursting forth, erumpent, full-bodied, virile? No, there is not, I say. None whatsoever. Except maybe for a hacked website run on Apache.

	is it... (none / 0) (#35)
	by nathan on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 09:27:48 PM PST

	...full-bodied, erumpent, virile? Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	tell me (1.00 / 2) (#26)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:00:40 PM PST

	linux encourage multiple users? And Microsoft/Windows doesn't? Let's see: Windows 9x Windows Me Windows NT Server/Workstation Windows 2000 Professional/Server/Adv. Server/Datacanter Windows Home/XP (gee what's all that fast user switching about?) They're all multi-user OSes you dumb cunt.

	Multi-user OS (none / 0) (#57)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 03:28:00 AM PST

	Multi-user means a little more than saving your pathetic desktop settings in a separate folder my friend. Go play with your screensaver or something

	you mean (1.00 / 1) (#70)
	by NAWL on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 12:00:55 PM PST

	You mean like controlling access to various network and local resources? Can do that in Windows which is a multi-user OS. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	Multi-user OS (none / 0) (#115)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 02:44:28 AM PST

	Well NAWL, you seem to knwo the location of Webopedia. Why didn't you bother to check the definition there - or just trolling again? I'm yet to see a Windos that supports multiple simultaneous users. rwiz

	Stop Rooting Each Other's Asses over there (1.00 / 1) (#28)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:05:42 PM PST

	For the love of God, it actually ENCOURAGES multiple users per system!! What the hell kind of security is that?? you forget that WinXP encourages mulitple users StarOffice > M$ OFfice No for my true feelings about you dumb asses....you all are a bunch of mother fucking dumbass, tree fucking, mother fucking, anal rapists, shitty shithead, ass rimming faggot who make me wish I wasn't a republican

	gentlemen, the evidence (none / 0) (#33)
	by nathan on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:18:27 PM PST

	If posts like this one are left up, can you imagine the ones that the adequacy editors are forced to take down? (No doubt out of simple decency and a desire to spare the gentle reader's tenderer emotions.) As for the AR to whom I am responding: Sticks and stones May break [osm's] bones, But words will never hurt [him.] Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	OSM.... (none / 0) (#67)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 06:09:49 AM PST

	No gooey nuget Nougat. You have fallen, sir—just a few short sentences after you lambasted him for his spelling. I'm disillusioned.

	Mmmmmmmmmm, Nougat (none / 0) (#73)
	by osm on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 12:33:52 PM PST

	I bought a six pack of Snickers bars after writing that. I'm still quivering from the opiate-like effects.

	One thing (5.00 / 1) (#19)
	by flarners on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:05:21 PM PST

	While esteemed Adequacy editor osm has already addressed a number of your concerns, there is one factual error in your post I feel it is my duty to correct: This is because windows operating sytems make it much easier to use [...] DOSing programs. As a PhD candidate, I feel you should know that with the release of Windows XP, there are no longer any DOS programs included with the Windows Operating System. Thank you. -- I told everyone we should have a witch-hunt, but they wanted to have a good old-fashioned book burning instead

	Yeah...Right. (none / 0) (#22)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:38:47 PM PST

	Just to inform you, Mr. High-and-Mighty, Windows XP actually introduced my friend to hacking. This is because he found several hacker's tools in the OS. "And the box said 'Windows 95 required' so I bought Linux."

	"hacker tools" (none / 0) (#95)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 01:07:48 PM PST

	ALL good administration tools are good hacker tools...

	Get a clue you fuck face (1.00 / 1) (#23)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:47:34 PM PST

	......DOS.... He is talking about Distributed Denial Of Service attacks, not DOS programs.... and yes DOS programs still exist.... open a Command Window in XP and type ipconfig...... I don't see any windows pop up... it's a full console application. You're as stupid as the author of this retarded article... So get a clue you fuck face..... I hope you get a worm in your next email asshole fuckin MS user..... None of you have ever tried Linux.... if you did, you would know that everything everyone always bashes here are lies.....

	uh yeah (none / 0) (#27)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:05:01 PM PST

	NT based OSes don't necessarily include DOS programs because they don't have any underlying DOS like all previous Windows OSes. However you can run MSDOS programs in an NT based OSes (WinNT, 2000, XP) using the New Technologies Virtual DOS Machine (NTVDM). Oh and just so you know NT = New Technologies Also when he mentioned DOSing I believe he meant DoSing. DoS = Denial of Service.

	NT? (none / 0) (#45)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 11:14:57 PM PST

	NetWork dumbshit

	oh man (none / 0) (#51)
	by NAWL on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 02:02:01 AM PST

	Oh yeah that's right. NT of Windows NT stands for NetWork, ok. Yeah and I guess NTFS stands for NetWork File System then right? WRONG, jackass! That's NFS. NTFS stands for New Technology File System. Hell boot Windows 2000 (NT5) some time. It's right there dumbshit! Damn you have got to be dumber that a premature ejaculated fetus trying to crawl up its mother's leg. Well looky here A version of the Windows operating system. Windows NT (New Technology) is a 32-bit operating system that supports preemptive multitasking. There are actually two versions of Windows NT: Windows NT Server, designed to act as a server in networks, and Windows NT Workstation for stand-alone or client workstations. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	PhD? (none / 0) (#102)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 06:20:52 PM PST

	Fuck your PhD. You haven't got a fucking clue. grc.com

	yeah PhD! (none / 0) (#107)
	by NAWL on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 07:43:38 PM PST

	All the editors and other wackos (ie Cortez) here do have PhDs. Phoney Diplomas! Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	That's Dr. Cortez you low life fool. (5.00 / 1) (#109)
	by Martino Cortez PhD on Thu Jan 17th, 2002 at 05:35:38 PM PST

	I do have a PhD, two in fact. One in economics (where my thesis was on Russian Economic Conditions) from Stanford and the other was a painstaking research effort on Neutrino-Muon interactions from University of Washington. I am also an esteemed businessman, and a member of the power elite. You sir seem to be well educated in being a complete, self deluded fool. Would you please list any PhD's or other educational degree's you have recived from a reputable university? Or perhaps you are ashamed of your GED. -- Dr Martino Cortez, PhD CEO - Martin-Cortez Financial Corporation Copyright © 2002, Martino Cortez.

	oh man (none / 0) (#111)
	by NAWL on Thu Jan 17th, 2002 at 08:35:17 PM PST

	The point I was making was than anyone has the ability to come on here and claim that they have a PhD in a particular field. Simple because you makes such claims it does not mean that anyone should beleive. Why should I list anything for you? I am not one to run around like a peacock screaming "look at me, look at me! And by the way the whole naked typist thing is getting rather old. I would be more inclined to believe that you are the naked typist. You probably sit around reading Guns and Ammo masturbating in your own feces. Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	Sir, (5.00 / 1) (#112)
	by Martino Cortez PhD on Thu Jan 17th, 2002 at 10:04:30 PM PST

	You are borderline trolling. Nowhere did you answer my exact, very specific question: What credentials do you have to post to this forum? As far as claiming that I am running around like a so called "peacock screaming 'look at me, look at me!'", may I remind you, the only person doing such is yourself. In the last two months, you have posted close to 200 comments (198 to be specific). I have only posted around 100 in my entire lifetime. Where as you sir have seemed to make yourself the class nerd, I have, as always, skillfully woven myself into the very fabric of this fine community. You sir, have on many, many levels proven yourself to be the most dense, pig-headed fool here. Has it not occured to you that you just might have wasted your valuable life chasing your very own tail? Over the last two months, has it occured to you that you have never, nor will ever prove anything? Why do you persist? Foolishness? No.. it's because you like to run screaming your fool head off "look at me, look at me - I know the facts!!!". That, my dear sir, is pathetic. Good day to you NAWL sir, -- Dr Martino Cortez, PhD CEO - Martin-Cortez Financial Corporation Copyright © 2002, Martino Cortez.

	wow (none / 0) (#113)
	by NAWL on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 12:21:38 AM PST

	What credentials do you have to post to this forum? Apparently all you need is to pick a user name and have a valid email address to post here. :) Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	I can vouch for his credentials (5.00 / 1) (#114)
	by T Reginald Gibbons on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 01:01:35 AM PST

	Dr Cortez's research in the sub-atomic energy field is quite widely referenced. There are no well-informed quantum mechanics who are not aware of him. I take it, then, that you are not as well-versed in quantum physics as you claim to be.

	euh.... not entirtly true.... (none / 0) (#116)
	by Soyweiser on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 08:17:50 AM PST

	if dr cortez is so wildly known, why can i only find this page (other then pages from this site..) when I search for is name? ("Martino Cortez") thank u very much... http://www.lone-gunm3n.de/index.php?page=notes&product=Compendium

	What a predictable mistake. (none / 0) (#121)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 03:41:59 PM PST

	We see it time and time again, don't we? You pasty-faced, semi-autistic twits are so scared to leave your parents' basements that you begin to assume that the entire world is available through your computer network connection. It never occurs to you that substantial, vital elements in society might not be available for you to steal via the inter-worldly web-net. You fancy yourself part of a "technological elite," when in fact you have less access to advances in science than the little girl at the local library, who can at least have a look at articles of real scientific merit, published in respected, peer-reviewed academic journals. Oh, the irony. Go ahead, sit there, smug in your knowledge of cold-fusion breakthroughs, 180 mpg carburators, and quantum black-hole time-machine research. I'm sure Dr. Cortez, and his distinguished peers, will come to your door one day, begging for help. Just sit tight, and keep collecting that information. The world will thank you for it, mark my words.

	hehe (none / 0) (#122)
	by Soyweiser on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 06:45:23 PM PST

	dear ano user, but most things that are intressting are on the net, And even My full name is on the net on sevral occasions. So if u arn't on the net, u ussualy havent done much in the sience part. (esspecialy in physics and other sientific studies.) and also, a website that doesn't work, AND google never heard of just dons't exsist. (nor did it ever exsist.. but this is all a big joke and u know it so, goodbye.

	I rest my case. (none / 0) (#123)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 06:53:42 PM PST

	My ass (none / 0) (#124)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 08:22:51 PM PST

	Yea man, there might actually be a martin cortez, but it's definately not you. Someone who has the credentials you speak of would never waste his time posting shit here. Yep, and your posted email is invalid, as well as the domain that it supposedly resides on. dipshit.

	"securest(sic) operating system"... linu (none / 0) (#127)
	by nx01 on Sun Jan 20th, 2002 at 12:24:12 AM PST

	If any hacker chooses to use Linux it would have to do with the knowledge they have about the securest operating systems....LINUX Surely you jest. "Every time I look at the X window system, it's so fucking stupid; and part of me feels responsible for the worst parts of it." -- James Gosling

	Slave? (none / 0) (#18)
	by First Incision on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:04:30 PM PST

	Mr. RobotSlave, are you aware that your girlfriend has been talking to Linux Zealot? I suggest you keep this bad influence away from such a delicate flower of a robotess. _ _ Do you suffer from late-night hacking? Ask your doctor about Protonix.

	I agree. (none / 0) (#21)
	by nathan on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:34:33 PM PST

	If our submissive automaton associate doesn't take care, he may find himself having to play Al Green and cook Rosie dinner. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	Let's get serious here... (none / 0) (#20)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:30:49 PM PST

	Ok, guys, I've read several things on your site, and found most, if not all, wrong. As for this current peice of garbage...well, after owning Red Hat Linux for a few months, I must say that their GUI is much more efficient than Windows. Yes, Linux has a GUI. The only possible reason for trashing it is either because you've put you're full fate into one company, a mistake because that will make it a monoply and they might go power-hungry, or Linux is to complicated for you guys because of it's non-user-friendly-but-more-efficient-programming than Windows, whose sole purpose is to make it so simple a child will look like a wiz. Try Linux before you bash it, and only end up making a fool of yourself because of your ignorance. Thank you.

	Sir... (none / 0) (#24)
	by doofus on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 07:50:10 PM PST

	Yes, Linux has a GUI. The subject of graphical user interfaces and so-called "open source" on Lunix has been discussed with a great deal of insight and clarity in a previous editorial comment exchange on this site. Not all adequacy.org posters are as ignorant as you seem to think.

	I've tried Linux... (none / 0) (#29)
	by MessiahWWKD on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:06:46 PM PST

	And Windows XP is truly the superior operating system. Guardian angel, heavenly friend, walk with me 'til the journey's end.

	not true (none / 0) (#68)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 09:11:29 AM PST

	Actually, even though you'll deny it, Windows XP comes with it's own hacking tools. That's how a friend of mine entered the world of hacking.

	Okay then (none / 0) (#118)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 09:43:26 AM PST

	> And Windows XP is truly the superior operating system Justify that.

	maybe you mean (none / 0) (#31)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:14:18 PM PST

	I think you mean nonLUSER friendly

	Burn in hell, as a bearer to false witness (none / 0) (#32)
	by leviathan623 on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 08:18:04 PM PST

	Nice doctored cartoons. I've never seen more bullshit spewed out by one person in my entire life; not even when viewing WWII propoganda used by Allied and Axis Powers combined. You're so fucking ignorant of linux, taht you don't even now of a GUI for it. But you can use windows. Wow, congratulations. You have the IQ of a mentally challenged person, as the only proof of this is your so called ability to use a Microsoft Windows application, by poorly doctoring images on the computer. What you've said would lead me to classify you as one who will be burned in the eight circle of Hell, in Dante's Inferno. Someone should take away your constitutional rights, you fucking swine.

	minor correction (5.00 / 1) (#53)
	by nathan on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 02:15:32 AM PST

	There are nine circles of Hell in Inferno, and few sinners burn as such. For instance, flatterers are covered in a river of shit, schizmatics are constantly sundered by blades (as they had sundered the body of the church,) and Epicureans are forever entombed. You seem to be a very angry person. What's got you so upset? Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	Dear flarners Sir, (none / 0) (#36)
	by Martino Cortez PhD on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 09:40:58 PM PST

	My secretaries, hot with passion, wish to know what the so called "typeface" you used for this text: "Yes! Finally linux has a ....." They are quite pleased with it's appearance, and have my permission to pleasure you should you provide an appropriate response -- Dr Martino Cortez, PhD CEO - Martin-Cortez Financial Corporation Copyright © 2002, Martino Cortez.

	Dear Dr. Cortez' naked typists: (none / 0) (#37)
	by flarners on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 09:52:03 PM PST

	The font used is appropriately titled "comicscartoon" and can be had from this excellent font package, along with several other high-quality typefaces for your Windows® or UNIX® workstations. -- I told everyone we should have a witch-hunt, but they wanted to have a good old-fashioned book burning instead

	professional (none / 0) (#125)
	by Anonymous Reader on Fri Jan 18th, 2002 at 08:39:47 PM PST

	yes, very professional indeed.

	You've lost your way, Linux Z (5.00 / 3) (#38)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 09:56:59 PM PST

	I remember back in tha DAY, man --who's with me?-- It was fuckin' COOL! I'd surf over to tha big AQ, there'd be a Linux Zealot 'toon there, lookin' all COOL in BLACK and WHITE! They'd use the same picture three times --it wuz OLD SCHOOL like a mutha! NOW... Now I'm all like: ........whaaaaa? Linux Z be all like in COLOR and using EXOTIC FONTS and like: when does he bus'a cap in some Windoze ass? Never! thass when! So now it's different: aright, I know where issat. Now it's all 'bout the glossy colors and the special FX, and all like FAME and MTV and what. Yeah. Two-three months, Linux Z's gonna be too BIG for tha ol' AQ. Flarners and dmg be all spending tha big chedda hangin' at the clubs with like Pink and Hale Berry and ya thass cool an all, name on tha blimp an all can't quarrel wid it. But me, man, I'm'a be back here on tha ol school AQ, reading the CLASSIC Linux Z's with ma PEEPS, thinkin' 'bout back in tha DAY, back when it wuz REAL.

	My word... (none / 0) (#39)
	by The dev0 on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 10:30:55 PM PST

	Some of you linux zealots are absolutely priceless. Can I buy one of you to wind up and put on my desk sqealing "arr!! windows sucks!" and "i am so 733T!" while bumping into each other and dribbling on your little tux shirts? I'll pay you in something you can use; charisma!! Never fight naked, unless you're in prison...

	I wonder (none / 0) (#61)
	by budlite on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 05:03:29 AM PST

	Does your definition of a Linux Zealot include a person that primarily uses Windows but also likes to experiment with other operating systems that are just as (if not more) advanced but haven't quite reached the newbie-friendliness of Windows? Because that's me. I dual-boot Windows 98 and Red Hat Linux 7.2, I use the GNOME login manager (graphical), GRUB bootloader (graphical), and KDE window and desktop manager, whose resemblance to Windows is striking, start menu and all. And it's skinnable, so you can make it look nicer. And I'll be perfectly honest and say that Linux crashes far less often than any version of Windows I've used (even 2000 and XP have had problems and Linux hasn't).

	here's an example of an LZ: (none / 0) (#62)
	by nathan on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 05:09:40 AM PST

	This charming fellow. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	A true samaritan... (5.00 / 1) (#65)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 05:43:10 AM PST

	He's so concerned that visitors to Adequacy aren't subject to false information about Linux. I thank him for his efforts, after all Adequacy is the first place I would go to find out about Linux. As Adequacy is definately not the sort of site where you'd find irony or satire, I'm still not sure why there are people here telling blatant untruths. What other motive could there be for their actions?

	Zealot.... (none / 0) (#75)
	by The dev0 on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 03:16:39 PM PST

	zealot: Pronunciation: 'ze-lot Function: noun Use: a zealous person; especially : a fanatical partisan. yeah, i'd go with fanatical partisan, methinks... Never fight naked, unless you're in prison...

	Stupid people (none / 0) (#40)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 10:36:13 PM PST

	im telling ya now, the last post i read you said that ppl that didnt use AOL where hackers and ones that wanted to upgrade there computers where hackersm now lets get this straight from that post to this you have some how changed your mind and upgrading is "ok", another one is, Linux is a hacker programe without a GUI??!! wtf are you stupid yes command lines have alot to do with it, but devolopers yes DEVOLPERS and even this SERVER runs on linux/unix platform so there for we must all be hackers acording to you, yes i use Windows XP pro AND i use RH linux oh and i use Mandrake at work, so whats that say for me? im a working hacker you dumb shit? get a life do better research and mybe grow a spin oh btw there are cars coming out that have unix systems in it yes UNIX as in the first version of linux or was that znix?? oh whatever it is you just need to go back to school for about 20 more years.

	oops (1.00 / 1) (#41)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 10:49:35 PM PST

	oh btw Open Source is bad? open source helps other people out there that need a driver or maybe a game for there puter in LINUX!!!!! or unix oh and i think there are open source programes for windows to haha this will be gnomed in a few hours ill gurenty it

	school? (none / 0) (#43)
	by nathan on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 11:05:48 PM PST

	At least we can spell and write coherently, chum. There's more to life than your idiotic "computars." Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	chum? (1.00 / 1) (#44)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 11:10:32 PM PST

	i aint no chum and who the fuck cares about spelling AND if there is why are you on one "Chum" jeezus i work with pputers so what? whats the big freakin deal i grew up with em to so that makes me a hacker? fuckin retard

	oh, I understand now! (5.00 / 1) (#46)
	by nathan on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 11:34:06 PM PST

	"Chum" must be far more insulting than "tard." So much for my attempt at being the slightest bit friendly. You'd think that h4x0rs such as this disappointingly typical specimen would have at least enough in the way of social skills to be capable of distinguishing a pleasantry from a curse. But no, once again the autistic-g*k community has lived down to its reputation. The olive branch has been snapped, the dove of peace barbecued, and the white flag dragged into the privy with unspeakable intent. The hell with you, Skippy. I'll never try to make friends with you* again, you big meanie. I'm so happy for you that your favorite OS's market share matters more to you than a loyal, loving, trustworthy friend for life! I hope it does you a lot of good! I hope it calls you up when you get dumped or fired and tells you you'll be all right! What's the matter, that module hasn't been compiled yet? You autistic g*ks never will compile it either. You'll just quote Star Wars* and Monty Python at each other while pounding Jolt. Well, good for you! I hate you all! Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	re (none / 0) (#48)
	by Anonymous Reader on Mon Jan 14th, 2002 at 11:58:19 PM PST

	i apologize yes i was out of line and im not a hackor they are the ones that go and reak havock all over the net, and yes i use linux at work, and home but mostly i use XP, what really gets me is people dumping on a perfectly good OS that other people can work on and use, i mean yes its free for download and windows isnt, so what makes it so bad? you know hackers and crackers or whatever the stupid things want to be called also do use windows to, im a home user of both microsoft and linux, so i cant choose a side, BTW what does every one think about this new os Lindows? eww, and no i wont quote star wars or monty python, who is that? and jolt is nasty not good for the teeth to much sugar thanx ill stick with milk or water maybe juice, and im sorry you hate us all, = but Have Fun!! ( personaly i think this post and the last one i read where jokes )

	darn (2.50 / 2) (#49)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 12:04:45 AM PST

	not post but the articles or what have you

	zeal (5.00 / 4) (#55)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 02:46:17 AM PST

	damn right about the sugar man let me tell you about this guy i knew once who ate nothing but twinkies for a year and at the end his teeth was so full of holes they had to fill his mouth full of metal but now he has this slick metal grin but the girls dont dig it but its cool anyway his names newt and he kicks fucken ass and one time we took him down to saratoga and he damn near lost his mind man with the ladies there man it was out of control and that was the night billy c was unavailable which means he was cough porkin another temp at the walmart cough so we had to make do with teddy k and he was a bringdown because he drank himself into a stupor which is dumb all us kids these days is doing e cause it makes you want to party not throw up and its cool because it makes everyone want to love each other and give each other handjobs and stuff so me and newt meet up with these babes called maddie a and janet r and theys all like what up and wes like we be thinkin you be knowin what up and theys like oh yeah and i dunno what happened to newt but he came home the next day without his shirt or shoes if you know what i mean and he was grinning like crazy even though we was fucked up from the comedown because you gotta pay to play as they say and what goes up must comedown so we were all sitting around in the lounge feeling kinda bummed and watching becoming on mtv and georgie b starts coughing like hes gonna die just as this hot little thing comes on supposed to be becoming billie or britney or some shit but georgies almost passing out on the floor but all we could do is bust our guts laughing and hes turning blue before he almost coughs it up and it s this mondo pretzel and it looked like he tried to swallow the thing whole and he was all what was you guys laughing for and im like dude and hes like ah dude and then we went and got some beers from georgie bs bud dick c whos got the mad id card and we got slammed and pissed all over anita hs front door again. damn.

	Context... (none / 0) (#85)
	by Anonymous Reader on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 06:54:01 PM PST

	Normally, a line like: Chum, Friend, or other normally endearing remark is somewhat of an insult, being a remark that kind of raises oneself over the other person. It's not universal, but in some areas it's like that. By-the-by: Why do you constantly call the people who insult you "h4x0rs"? That's basically no better than the people themselves... But like I say: This site's audience turns any decent debate or argument into a series of irrelevant, pointless, insults and trolls. Funny eh?

	You Forgot (none / 0) (#86)
	by doofus on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 07:01:51 PM PST

	"l33t"

	decent argument? (none / 0) (#104)
	by Anonymous Reader on Wed Jan 16th, 2002 at 06:37:11 PM PST

	<i>But like I say: This site's audience turns any decent debate or argument into a series of irrelevant, pointless, insults and trolls. Funny eh?</i> you mean to say that the original article was anywhere close to being a decent argument?

	Yes, Indeed (none / 0) (#69)
	by doofus on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 10:07:33 AM PST

	Shark chum.

	PhD (1.00 / 1) (#50)
	by NAWL on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 01:37:46 AM PST

	PhD thesis about Linux users and its Armenian creator Lorenzo Torrováldez. Gee, it must have been a comical piece since you obviously know nothing about Linux nor its FINNISH creator Linus Torvalds. I mean you say linux users refuse to adopt a GUI and #D graphic acceleration. 3D Acceleration is there. And if the is no GUI then what the hell are GNOME, KDE or any of the other offerings? Next time you make an attempt at souding half-way intelligent, talking about your thesis and PhD, you think you might try a little harder? Hey, if you consider the fifth grade your senior year, what else can you be besides a pompous jackass?

	grave misunderstanding (5.00 / 1) (#52)
	by nathan on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 02:05:27 AM PST

	Next time you make an attempt at souding half-way intelligent, talking about your thesis and PhD... What makes you think that earning a doctorate is primarily a matter of intelligence? It's a matter of scholarship, which is another animal entirely. Besides, a doctoral "thesis" is called a dissertation. It serves a very different function from the masters' thesis. Writing a thesis should demonstrate the ability to do genuine, creative research, in order to develop valid conclusions. Writing a dissertation, contrariwise, ought to be a serious attempt to add to your field. Dissertations are citable sources; some are near-monograph length. Theses are usually not citable (if the research is good, there is probably other, more thorough research in the same field.) NAWL, you appear to be concerned exclusively with pro-Linux / BSD / anti-Microsoft advocacy. Don't you care about anything else? Aren't you sick of "correcting" people who disagree with you, as is their right, wrong as you might think them to be? Why don't you write about something else for a change? And why not consider defining your identity less exclusively through your non-loserhood? For the record, I'm writing this on a Windows 2000 workstation. I don't have admin privileges, the machine appears secure, and it does what I need it to do. OS market-share and philosophical skirmishes are not greatly interesting to me. Why should I give a thin goddamn for Linsux vs Winblows? Why am I a loser for using one or the other? For heaven's sake, let's talk about something that matters. Nathan -- Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

	yeah ok (1.00 / 2) (#54)
	by NAWL on Tue Jan 15th, 2002 at 02:38:41 AM PST

	What makes you think that earning a doctorate is primarily a matter of intelligence? It's a matter of scholarship, which is another animal entirely. Besides, a doctoral "thesis" is called a dissertation. It serves a very different function from the masters' thesis. Writing a thesis should demonstrate the ability to do genuine, creative research, in order to develop valid conclusions. Writing a disse