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I consider myself:
Very Tolerant 28%
Pretty Tolerant 42%
Somewhat Tolerant 0%
Somewhat Intolerant 14%
Pretty Intolerant 14%
Very Intolerant 0%

Votes: 7


 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Jul 19, 2001

So, tonight I have a lot of stuff to do, and I have to make sure I get plenty of sleep in so that I'll be ready for working both jobs in what is now the normal 19 hour marathon tomorrow.

Fortunantly, I just found out that our network guy is getting a better job, making what well-trained network guys are really worth, and his position, which pays $2500 a month, is going to suddenly be avalible, and guess who will get first chance at talking to the boss about a potential promotion...


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The does bring up an interesting issue, though. With the extra ~$800 I'll be making a month, I'll be able to pay off my debts and increase my standard of living. In fact, I can quit the bartending job and reclaim my weekends, sitting in front of a bar and not behind one. I worried, though, that making a lot more money while actually having to do less work might turn me into a snob...

I mean, seriously, I was at the apartment of this couple with whom my girlfriend and I are friends. The guy of that couple had just lost his job, and they were really worried about if they'd even be able to make rent that month. We were having a conversation, and the only thing in my life I could really talk about was the different jobs I'm applying for, and how much more they're going to pay me. Hell, even right now I already made enough that I leant the couple fourty dollars so they could make last month's rent. I must have sounded like a real jackass talking about how much more richer I had the chance of becoming.

That's not it, though. No, the thing that really gets to me is the way I get irked by the couple. I mean, the guy who got laid off, immediatly upon finding out, went to his apartment with his co-workers and smoked up. He routinly gets stoned or drop-dead drunk on nights when he has to work. None of these factors lead to him getting fired for the three jobs he's had these last five months, it was invariably economic factors and companies that mismanaged their finances. Still, I want to blame the guy for his lack of a job. I want to tell him that if he'd just put the bong down he could actually do something with his life. Oh, and the fact that he's a Chaos Wiccan doesn't make it any better. (Not 'Chaos' as in "An intense student of chaos theory and the philosophical fundamentals behind magick", no, 'Chaos' as in "I'll name my kittens Chaos and Lucifer and wear a big fat pentacle and listen to Godsmack and do other things that will really freak out Christians, and then justify is by saying I worship chaos.")

Right now I just seem to really really short tempered with anyone who isn't putting an extreme amount of effort into Quality. I fear that it's turning me into a bigot. Worse, I think it's turning me into a bigot against anyone who isn't better than I am. I've long known that I hate myself, and I understand that it is something that I really need to work on, but I've always been pretty good about not being intolerent of others. Right now, it feels like that intolerence is overwhelming me, and I don't know what to do about it.

Yes, so basically, I'm a confused, intolerent, self-loathing bastard.


Fear not (5.00 / 2) (#1)
by SpaceGhoti on Thu Jul 19th, 2001 at 05:32:43 PM PST
Be a bigot. Stand up for your values and beliefs, then look down your nose at anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with them. Demonstrate to the world that you are a superior specimen of human being, and the rest aren't fit to lick the soles of your boots. Then you'll get along just fine with the majority of this fine site.

"Hi, I'm SpaceGhoti and I'm an intellectual snob."

A troll's true colors.

What are you saying ? (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Jul 19th, 2001 at 06:13:46 PM PST
You need to be a bit careful what you say around here. This comment could be viewed as 'trolling'. does not tolerate trolling even in the diary section.

I will let it slide this time, and give you the benefit of the doubt. But if I ever see anything suspicious posted by you again, rest assured I will waste no time in deleting your post as I have done with previous offenders.

Our goal is to have a troll-free site. Please co-operate with us in our aims.

thank you


What am I saying? (3.33 / 3) (#3)
by SpaceGhoti on Thu Jul 19th, 2001 at 06:30:08 PM PST
I'm saying what I believe. I believe that this site is populated by either bigoted or trollish individuals. That whether or not people believe what they're saying, the articles and many comments are geared specifically toward hateful messages and confrontational rhetoric. That is what I believe and what I observe. Does that make me a troll?

A troll's true colors.

Well, we certainly aim to promote lively debate. (none / 0) (#4)
by dmg on Thu Jul 19th, 2001 at 09:59:36 PM PST
And it seems to be working. I don't see any hateful messages, they have probably already been deleted by one of our editors. Stating your opinion can never make you a troll. Trolls are people who do not believe what they say, or post deliberately inflammatory comments to provoke a reaction. I have not seen any of that on adequcy. (Perhaps due to our tough anti-troll editorial stance).

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

Deliberately inflammatory (2.50 / 2) (#5)
by SpaceGhoti on Thu Jul 19th, 2001 at 11:11:42 PM PST
Really? There's nothing like that here. Certainly not this. Or this. Perhaps this? I consider this a good example. We can't forget this or this or this.

That doesn't even begin to cover the comments posted. This one is one of my favorites.

According to the Editors, none of that qualifies as trollbait or deliberately inflammatory. It's just "lively debate." Hey, I'm not going to argue; it's your site. Run it how you like. Don't let my definition of a troll get in your way. Just because I believe it doesn't stop me from having fun. My comment in EA's diary here was intended to respond to his fear of becoming a bigot. If that makes me a troll as osm thinks, so be it.

A troll's true colors.

I think I can see where the problem lies.... (none / 0) (#6)
by dmg on Thu Jul 19th, 2001 at 11:59:37 PM PST
You seem to be under the impression that ESR is a source of up to date and correct information.

You may be interested in what he has to say about Sex and Guns and perhaps then you can reconsider whether ESR is a valid source of definitions for technical terms like 'troll'

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

ESR (none / 0) (#10)
by SpaceGhoti on Fri Jul 20th, 2001 at 08:23:41 AM PST
ESR is most certainly not the Second Coming of Christ. He's not even all that savory.

ESR's Jargon File is pretty damned funny, and from my limited experience, fairly accurate. The fact that I agree with his definition of a troll, whether or not that definition applies to most of the material passing as news on this site, is a separate issue. You're entitled to your own opinion, just as you're entitled to be wrong-headed (I believe that was the phrase I saw one of the Editors toss out). I won't deny your right to it, but I'm not required to agree with it. Thus, I speak my mind without regard for what you think of it.

Lively debate, right?

A troll's true colors.

I hasten to point out (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by CaptainZornchugger on Fri Jul 20th, 2001 at 08:54:41 AM PST
That ESR did not write the Jargon File. He simply strolled along at some point and unceremoniously claimed it as his own. Personally I consider his actions rather despicable -- it is true that he does not really claim anywhere that he wrote it, but he also does not do anything to combat the widespread notion that he did.

In fact, I would venture to say that ESR has never contributed anything of worth to the hacker or OSS community at all. However, he has shown himself to be a master at claiming credit for things.

"Quality" *sniff* *sniff* (none / 0) (#7)
by jsm on Fri Jul 20th, 2001 at 01:06:06 AM PST
suffice it to say that one would not consider a philosophical move from Paganism to the kind of crap Robert Pirsig believes in to be "progress".

... the worst tempered and least consistent of the editors
... now also Legal department and general counsel,

Hrm... (none / 0) (#9)
by Electric Angst on Fri Jul 20th, 2001 at 05:52:24 AM PST
What's your problem with Pirsig?

In the dark times, will there still be singing?
Yes, there will be singing. There will be singing about the dark times. -- Bertolt Brecht

Fnord (none / 0) (#8)
by sventhatcher on Fri Jul 20th, 2001 at 05:15:15 AM PST
What does Lucifer have to do with Chaos?!

Everyone knows the proper religion of the followers of Chaos is Discordianism. I think you should enlighten him to the teachings of Eris.

--Sven (now with bonus weblog vanity site! (MLP sold seperately))


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