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Votes: 6

 My photos from Qu?bec!

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Nov 05, 2001

I got back from Toronto back on the 25th. I did post an entry while I was away, and I remember someone asking "Why are you posting on Adequacy while you're on vacation?" Well, to answer that question, my boyfriend is a University student, and while I can take a week off of work, he still has classes. So I was reading Adequacy in between washing the dishes from breakfast and washing his clothes/hanging them up to dry in the basement. I already know what he owns (so digging through his room would be boring), he doesn't keep anything interesting besides naked pictures of me on his computer, and I don't really have much else to do besides surf the web while waiting for him to come back from school. :)


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Anyway, while I was up there he took me to Québec. I must say that sleeping on a train (when you actually have a bed, a window, and some privacy) is quite a fun and unique experience. We spent two days in Québec with three friends: a Russian guy, a French girl, and a Chinese guy that could barely speak English asking us to tell him how to say lots of things in French (this resulting in much hilarity.)

We had a great time, and I took about a roll and a half of film. The scenery was beautiful, and I'm told it's much more like Europe than pretty much the rest of North America. If Europe looks anything like some parts of Québec, then I'm going to start packing my bags right away! One of the things you'll notice in my photos is that I shot quite a few trees. This is because I've never been to a very wooded place at a time when the trees changed colour, and the leaves turning yellow and orange and pink fascinate me. There are 37 (I think) pictures online total, and only one of them has me in it since I was behind the camera the rest of the time... it's #15 in case you want to deliberately avoid it. Enjoy the rest of the scenery!


Honey (none / 0) (#1)
by cp on Mon Nov 5th, 2001 at 06:27:28 PM PST
So I was reading Adequacy in between washing the dishes from breakfast and washing his clothes/hanging them up to dry in the basement.
That's just so domestic.

So? (none / 0) (#2)
by jin wicked on Mon Nov 5th, 2001 at 06:32:15 PM PST
My hands aren't pretty or delicate. A little dishwater and soap is not going to hurt them.

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

But aren't you supposed to be attractive? (none / 0) (#14)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 02:08:28 PM PST
gee, yet another internet illusion deflated.

It's a pretty well (none / 0) (#16)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 03:28:04 PM PST
established fact that attractive girls do not use the internet. That would require knowledge of computers in the first place, then there's the hassle of setting up an ISP account and entering DNS servers, enabling protocalls, what have you... Not complicated or even very hard, but attractive girls have much better things to do than deal with all this, like go shopping, to the gym, or ride around in their asshole boyfriend's camaro.

pretty girls/hands (none / 0) (#18)
by nathan on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 04:39:16 PM PST
Personally, I'm a little turned off at the thought of a girl being too soft. Not that I want her all hairy and butch and wanting to beat my ass hollow, but I think it's great if she's accustomed to working with her hands. Nothing like a strong woman. Mmmmmm...

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

So you think calluses are pretty? (none / 0) (#21)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 05:33:11 PM PST
You'd take a girl with roughened hands and skin (lord knows what the skin must be like if the hands are so badly cared for)? One can 'work with one's hands' and still keep them attractive. Just takes effort and willingness to maintain all aspects of one's body. What's the point of slapping some makeup on one's face, taking a few flatteringly lit photos and defining that as 'attractive' (a common internet phenomenon)? True attractiveness should be more of a whole package, rather than selectively presented piecework, one would think.

That depends on your idea of attractive. (none / 0) (#22)
by jin wicked on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 05:47:44 PM PST
If your idea of an attractive hand is one of the things in the nailpolish or hand lotion commercials then of course mine aren't. But my skin isn't rough at all. One of the advantages to being pale and wearing long sleeves is that your skin seldom touches sunlight or gets burned, and so it ends up being extremely soft and smooth. My hands aren't rough by any means, but they also don't look like one of those jewelry model hands either. My nails are cropped very short for typing, painting and drawing, and my fingers and knuckles are covered with faded scars from cuts while framing things. At any given time there's usually a fair amount of ink, pencil or corner filler under or around my nails (you know, the trace amounts that you just can't get off after washing your hands two or three times.) Of course, my idea of beauty is something I can admire for hours and hours, which is why I don't find magazine-type men to be attractive. You can't get lost looking at something you've seen a thousand times before, and something interesting is (to me) far more attractive (and beautiful) than something "perfect" but boring.

So I could choose to get a manicure every week, and paint my nails, and stop doing the things I love in order to keep my hands clean and imperfection-free, but really, what's the point? My hands look the way they do for a reason -- they say a lot about me as a person. If I wanted them to look any other way, they would already. :)

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

You've misread. (none / 0) (#23)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 06:23:27 PM PST
The post said nothing about having to stop doing something one likes in order to be lovely or attractive. It merely noted that there are women who don't need gobs of makeup or flattering photography because their entire form is attractive implicitly, without resort to any trickery whatsoever. It's an odd phenomenon that most self-proclaimed 'attractive' girls online are only so because they utilise classic aids such as makeup. Compared to women who give their bodies the proper amount of attention and thus don't need any tricks to showcase their appealingness, the cheap-tactic pretty-only-in-pictures girls are shabby and a bit sad.

And proper amount of attention doesn't necessarily mean hair salons and manicures and 'perfect' airbrushed good looks. It means having clear skin that isn't slug-soft and pale, and having all parts of one's body kept from looking roughened or too wrinkled or otherwise slovenly. It means being confident and assertive, and not needing to fish for compliments from others. It means appreciating oneself without being vain and self-centered. It means having enough inner beauty that it just shows through and enhances one's physical beauty more than makeup or decent pictures or artful cam shots. Anyone can be 'pretty enough' on the internet. It takes finesse and grace and guts to be truly beautiful, and that's exceedingly rare offline and online. So it's understandable that some feel comfortable settling for a small amount of illusory prettiness.

just curious (none / 0) (#30)
by nathan on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 11:31:08 AM PST
Who are you arguing with here?

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

It isn't that difficult (none / 0) (#20)
by jin wicked on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 05:09:13 PM PST
to set up a dial-up accont in Windows. I'm too poor to shop, I don't like the gym, and my boyfriend doesn't even own a car. (I love the subway and the streetcar though!) As for my hands...well. I work for a living, and I do more than type. And there's nothing wrong with washing dishes for your boyfriend, especially when he cooks for you. Not all of me can be perfect and without flaw...the bottoms of my feet aren't so great either. ;)

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

oh dear (none / 0) (#24)
by jsm on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 12:03:39 AM PST
the bottoms of my feet aren't so great either

If you find your adequacy account mysteriously cancelled, this will probably be the reason. A number of our editors tend to lose their normally Aristotelian standards of logic when the topic of feet is raised. Sorry, but since the unfortunate episode over iat's 15,000 word "Bukkakke Wonderland" article which led to my dismissal as an editor, I can't do anything about it.

... the worst tempered and least consistent of the editors
... now also Legal department and general counsel,

Excuse me (none / 0) (#33)
by Peter Johnson on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 06:39:42 PM PST
I only lose it when the feet in question are sexy. Not so sexy feet fail to perturb my philosophic approach to life.

Your very own,

Are you adequate?

Well (none / 0) (#35)
by jin wicked on Thu Nov 8th, 2001 at 08:58:42 AM PST
Inoshiro did have a picture of my naked foot on or somesuch, unless he's deleted it since then. I don't have a copy, but you could ask him.

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

Laa-dee-daa... (none / 0) (#36)
by CaptainZornchugger on Thu Nov 8th, 2001 at 09:18:20 AM PST
Right Here.

Grainy, low res, bad angle (none / 0) (#37)
by Peter Johnson on Thu Nov 8th, 2001 at 09:32:06 AM PST
She's obviously got something to hide. Some hidden deformity? Birthmark shaped like Castro? Something along those lines for sure.
Are you adequate?

Oh yes. (5.00 / 1) (#4)
by tkatchev on Mon Nov 5th, 2001 at 08:19:17 PM PST
I assume you use disposable clothes and dishes? Or maybe you simply buy new clothes when your old clothes get dirty?

Peace and much love...

Maybe he just wears adult diapers (none / 0) (#5)
by jin wicked on Mon Nov 5th, 2001 at 08:27:12 PM PST
and eats Cheerios! right out of the box.

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

nothing wrong with that (none / 0) (#8)
by alprazolam on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 09:06:28 AM PST
the Cheerios part I mean. Are disputing the wholesomeness of fine American-produced food?

Correction... (none / 0) (#9)
by tkatchev on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 09:34:03 AM PST
...fine American-produced styrofoam foods. Nothing wrong with that, I guess; the scientists tell us nowadays that synthetic oils can be quite digestible in some cases...

Peace and much love...

as opposed to (none / 0) (#10)
by nathan on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 09:43:00 AM PST
fine plutonium-contaminated Russian foods.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Oh, boy. (none / 0) (#11)
by tkatchev on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 12:27:18 PM PST
You sure showed your erudition here, with unparalleled knowledge of places other than Podunk, Georgia. Not.

Seriously, where do you get this information? I'm seriously interested. Or are you blowing hot air for the sake of controvercy?

Peace and much love...

ok, I'm just joshing you (none / 0) (#12)
by nathan on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 01:16:17 PM PST
I should have said fine non-existant Russian foods.

Not that I like extruded Styrofoam cuisine - but I eat mostly carbohydrates and legumes, along with cheap vegetables, so this isn't really an issue for me anyway.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Oh, that's rich. (none / 0) (#17)
by SpaceGhoti on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 04:21:09 PM PST
This, from a boy who makes claims like this.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

A troll's true colors.

Huh? (none / 0) (#27)
by CaptainZornchugger on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 08:09:30 AM PST
What's so unbelievable about that? We bomb hospitals, and kill fleeing unarmed people, and shoot down civilian planes, and place embargoes with the sole purpose of starving entire countries to death; why wouldn't we bomb a maternity home?

Bombing maternity homes (none / 0) (#32)
by SpaceGhoti on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 05:15:47 PM PST
As stated in the discussion with the fanboy, whenever anyone resorts to military conflict, innocents suffer. Very rarely are targets such as hospitals and maternity homes deliberately targeted as such. If the US really went out and deliberately targeted such a place, I'd like to see the evidence. Paranoia is a good way to kill a few hours, but hardly credible. It isn't that I don't believe such things are possible, but I'd like proof before I start casting stones.

For tkatchev to make such a claim then call someone else for making broad, unsupported and unsubstantiated statements, is a perfect example the pot calling the kettle black.

A troll's true colors.

of course not. (none / 0) (#6)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 06:53:00 AM PST
I get a woman to do it for me instead.

montreal (none / 0) (#3)
by nathan on Mon Nov 5th, 2001 at 07:42:49 PM PST
I used to love that city. But the last time I was there (in August, to see Radiohead,) I was treated really rudely by a bunch of frogs. I really resent being condescended to by a waiter, especially at some down-at-the-heels brasserie where I'm trying to order a biere. I had eleven weeks of Frog in school, and, having never met a rude Quebecker before, I was a little taken aback. I got even by tipping a penny.

The irony was that the beer I ordered was Czech-style, and he got the consonants totally wrong. So much for the oft-derided English accent.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Frog envy (none / 0) (#13)
by Logical Analysis on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 01:40:20 PM PST
The French are very envious of American culture. Oh sure, they will go on and on about how great their painters are (not), or how wonderful their food is (ugh), but look who every other country in the world wants to emulate. It's not France. Or Quebec. It's America. We kick ass.

Ha. (1.00 / 1) (#25)
by tkatchev on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 03:43:22 AM PST
Ha ha ha Ha ha. Thanks for the laugh.

(P.S. I really hope for your sake that that was witty use of sarcasm and irony. You really can't be that dense, can you?)

Peace and much love...

Well (none / 0) (#26)
by FreemoreJohnson on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 07:38:49 AM PST
Not that I don't agree that was inane, but seriously Tkatchev, do you run a filter for "America" or "USA" so you can get in on the action at every mention?

woah (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by Anonymous Reader on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 08:19:17 AM PST
Yer boyfriend looks like he'd make a pretty good Dungeon Master, with the ponytail and all. Does he hang out Ren Fests?

heh (none / 0) (#15)
by westgeof on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 02:36:25 PM PST
Actually he looks like my old college physics professor. Really cool guy, that was one of the few classes I went to more than half the time.

(Jin, on the other hand, looks creepily like my little sister. Go figure.)

As a child I wanted to know everything. Now I miss my ignorance.

Psy's hair... (none / 0) (#19)
by jin wicked on Tue Nov 6th, 2001 at 05:03:47 PM PST
Actually, I prefer it when he doesn't pull it back (it's very curly), but he needs a haircut and I couldn't afford to pay for it for him this time around. (That, and we didn't convieniently wander by any appropriate establishments or I might've tried to drag him in... ;) He still has the best hair of any boy I've met...! I probably have as many pictures of him in my personal albums as there are photographs of me on my website.

Hmm...I don't know about Dungeon Master. He used to want to play, but I think he never could get a game together. To the best of my knowledge he's never actually played a real game of D&D. He does like the Ultima video games, but so far I haven't been able to get him to play any of the Final Fantasy series. :P

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

la belle province (none / 0) (#28)
by em on Wed Nov 7th, 2001 at 08:55:01 AM PST
did you really spend all your time in Québec, or did you not take any photos of Montréal?

I mean, Québec is historic, they've got nicer buildings, fortifications and well preserved old stuff, so it definitely merits a visit, but it's too much of a tourist town. I really would rate St. Denis street in downtown Montréal as much more fun than Québec. Hell it was hard to find a goddamn bar in Québec (the bar we found was excellent, but L'Amer Boire in St. Denis (2/3 blocks uphill from UQaM) has got to be the coolest bar in the world.)

Anyway, the real reason to justify a trip to Québec has got to be beer. What did you have? Did you try all of the Unibroues, all of the Belle Gueles, all of the Cheval Blancs, and so on?
Associate Editor,

We didn't stay in Montréal... (none / 0) (#34)
by jin wicked on Thu Nov 8th, 2001 at 08:56:02 AM PST
We were only there for a matter of half an hour or so until the train to Québec left, and on the way back we were there for about three hours. We went to eat, but it was dark and I wouldn't have been able to take photos.

We didn't go to any bars because I don't drink. (Neither does my bf or the French girl.)

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."


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