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 Not just harmless fun

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Nov 29, 2001
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Once upon a time two great alliances of nations fought a long and bitter war in a clash of good against evil. Eventually the forces of light won, and all that remained was one small nation led by evil rulers that would not surrender, no matter what the cost to their nation.

In their wisdom, the greatest nation in the forces of light decided that it would be wrong to drag the battle out longer than was necessary and decimate those whose only fault was to have been duped by evil men, and so they got their mightiest wizards to rain fire upon their two of their enemy's cities, and the enemy leaders realised their folly and capitulated at once.

Knowing that prosperity encourages peace, the wise men of the great nation went into the conquered nation and helped rebuild it, letting the people rule themselves and build a future for their nation. In time, they began to prosper thanks to hard work and ingenuity, and eventually they became a mighty trading nation, far surpassing any level of wealth they might have otherwise expected.

Unfortunately the clash of old and new cultures gave rise to value system that neither culture would have been happy with. Indeed, some of these new fetishes were so virulently immoral they could be described as a plague. And like any plague, they could spread far beyond where they were spawned, infecting entirely new cultures unused and unprotected from their effects.

This is a story about one such plague, and how it has reached our shores.

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In recent years there has been a growing trend amongst radical youth elements of American society for cultural relativism, the foolish belief that other cultures have something to offer. This is clearly not true, and anyone that cares to take the time to do the research will find that the US is by far the world's greatest nation in terms of any statistic that matters. Unfortunately thanks to the influence of Liberal elements in our once-great education system these individuals choose to turn away from the products our cultures produces and embrace alien ideas that are an affront to God and our Founding Fathers.

Censored owing to un-Christian content

In some cases this relativism is less harmful than others; the English culture apes our own enough so that there is little harm to be had. But other so-called cultures are purely and simply alien to morality, and the cultural apologists are nothing more than a group of deceivers intent on the final replacement of Christian moral values with a Liberal credo of immorality and sin.

The worst attack on morality comes in the form of Japanese manga films, which spread a shocking message of immorality under the cover of animation, a cynical move targetting a genre typically aimed at children. These films are supposedly aimed at adults, but a moment's reflection counters this vacuous argument - what kind of grown adult watches cartoons? When we become adults we put childish things behind us, and cartoons, whilst of invaluable aid in entertaining and educating children, are of no use to a healthy adult of sound mind and firm moral base.

Upon my first encounter with this foriegn plague I was shocked at the gratuitous use of violence and anti-Christian symbolism. These films all fall into the fantasy and science-fiction genres (which are little more than a hotbed of paganism and Satanism anyway) and the stories generally involve an epic conflict between the forces of "good," who are typically inbued with obviously Satanic powers, and their enemies, also possessing such powers. Indeed, the only difference being that the forces of "evil" are more obviously demonic in their visages! These two forces engage in megaviolent battles using their Satanic powers, and at the end of an orgy of blood and dismembered limbs the forces of "good" are victorious and undoubtedly retire to give thanks to their evil master.

At this point I was shocked enough. Never before have I seen such a celebration of violence and Satanism, and to see it in a medium designed to entice children had me gripping the edge of my seat in righteous outrage. What kind of sick mind could conceive of such a vicious assault on the kind of decent Christian values that made America the greatest nation on Earth? It was clear to me at that point that this was nothing other than an insidious campaign being waged against our nation's youths, designed to blind them to the Truth and install the Liberal lies of a relativistic paradise where morality is whatever makes you feel good.

And worse yet, it was succeeding! The popularity of manga films has increased over the last decade, and yet few people have realised how many of our nation's children have been turned to the Liberals. I at once decided that something needed to be done about this scourge, and began to engage in an intense bout of research, forcing myself to watch hour after hour of this immoral filth. And slowly, something else became clear. I had been wrong. Very wrong.

No, the real agenda was not the dissemination of psychopathic and anti-Christian messages. These were nothing more than a cover for what these vile "films" were really pushing. It became clear only after watching several of the so-called classics (as if any film made less than fifty years ago could be termed a classic!) that the real agenda was truly Satanic - manga films exist solely to promote the idea that paedophilia is good!

Filth

Not content with dominance in the field of consumer electronics, it was now clear to me that the Japanese wished to bring about the downfall of our society by spreading this cancer in our midst, targetting the most naive and vulnerable segments of our population - teenagers and college students.

The evidence for this is clear to anyone not so simple-minded and deluded by a Liberal education. In a cheap trick the perverts that create manga films have stolen their animation techniques from Disney, and given all of their characters the same wide-eyed child-like look of innocence seen in such timeless children's classics as Sleeping Beauty or Snow White. This makes it clear that even when showing supposedly adult characters, they are subliminally referring instead to young children.

Of course it doesn't end here, for like all Liberal filthmongers they know no bounds to their depravity. The characters in these obscenities, especially the female ones, are drawn in a blatently sexual manner, with exaggerated sexual attributes, impossible proportions and disturbingly provocative clothing (when there is any!). Each character has been crafted to act upon the deadly sin of lust, and is an unholy masterpiece of desire. I found myself watching these succubi again and again, mesmerised and unable to comprehend such un-Christian filth.

When you combine the evidence the secret agenda becomes only too clear - that children are sexual creatures, and that it is alright to feel lust towards them. Furthermore, the graphic scenes of violence in manga films are clearly designed to incite violence against children in the furtherance of these foul desires. Clearly it is not only enough to simply instill such unwholesome thoughts in the minds of our youth, they are intent upon inciting violence of a most deviant manner upon our nation's children!

This is against everything that is decent and Christian in the world! It is clearly part of the Liberalist agenda of secular multiculturalism, and part of the drive towards their ultimate goal of One World government ruling over a homogenous, unthinking lower class devoid of the Christian ethics that separate us from savages.

Tomorrow I begin my crusade. If you too share the values that made this country the greatest in the world, I urge you to think of a generation lost to Satan, and to make a stand against the tide of filth lapping at our Christian shores.


Another Japanese import (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 09:15:43 AM PST
I'd like to over here is vending machines that sell used school girl knickers. Many's the time I've run out of them on the weekend and being able to purchase them 24/365 would better than waiting until monday morning when the school's are open....


it can't possibly be (none / 0) (#102)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 12:21:42 AM PST
"I found myself watching these succubi again and again..."

Is this article for real? Got to be a joke. No one capable of operating a computer actually thinks like that.


hm..... (none / 0) (#133)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 10:39:50 AM PST
Wow it's amazing to me that so many people can be so closed minded and be herded like sheep to any cause. Next thing you know people will be wanting to say that breathing is against "God's" will. The very idea that anime is a tool of satan is rediculous and one thing that bothers me is the hipocracy of most people who post articles like this. 9 times out of 10 the people who post these "beware of <topic> its a tool of satan" are just as bad if not worse about other things. the guys who started this article probly watches kiddy porn.


Message to the great Jon Erikson and Adam Rightman (none / 0) (#146)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 01:11:51 PM PST
As a fellow Christian, i must say something about this. And this is what i have to say... you are sooooo stereotypical Jon and Adam. You guys judge things right away without understanding them, makes me kinda think you guys are prejudice. First off, just cause people grows up doesn't mean they still get to watch cartoons. Cartoons is a form of ENTERTAINMENT, not just learning morals and that. When a adult grows up, they can do anything they want to do. Second, your researching on Japanese animation, Anime, or manga (or the way you named it, the Foriegn Plague) is really really awful. I am disappointed on your research and lack of knowledge for anime and manga. Not all anime and manga is for children, most are suitiable for teenagers and adults. And don't blame Japan, blame the parents who FAILS or does terrible at protecting the kids from the foriegn plague. And not all of the anime are Sci-fi and fantasy, there's also drama, comedy, romance, action, adventure, horror. Oh wait, you were probably blind and ignored them looking for mostly sci-fi and fantasy with hentai (naked filth) in them. Maybe your still watching them- oops, did i insult? I'm sorry, there, happy? Well here's a anime film you should get. It's called "Wings of Honneamise", no, it's not fantasy, maybe a bit of sci-fi since it's about a man wanting to go to space. This is a movie you should watch, there's a christian woman in it. you'll probably enjoy, oh no wait, you probably won't, you already hate anime. my bad.

and to mr. Adam apple- i mean Adam Rightmann. How dare you say all manga readers are geeks. That's like a big insult towards everyone. I thought good people aren't suppose to insult other people? oh no, this must mean adam is retarded. Anyways i have a friend who's a geek but is really friendly and such. He knows what anime is but doesn't watch it much often. Also, i happen to be a geek who loves anime.

I am really disappointed in this article or message or whatever. Also, you're terrible and pathetic at researching subjects. All i'm going to do after i post this is laugh at you... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...




Wasn't this originally about Anime? (none / 0) (#166)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 04:15:50 PM PST
It seems to have have spawned in to a religious war. And so I will take the freedom to return to the discussion of Anime.

I must firmly agree with points made that the article was quite biased and unreasearched. At the core of things, really only Hentai anime where presented. Surely, why do people waste their time making an argument with only knowing an ounce of what they are writing about?

Firstly I will clearly state that I am a GIRL. And I am also an anime fan. So this comment is written from a female point of view.

Number one, I would like to eliminate the stereotype of anime "only exploiting woman, and written by filthy men." Or the like. If that is the case, then why do truckloads of female fans exist? That is because as stated before, anime is an artform!

Both anime and manga are a way of telling stories through pictures. Wether moving or on paper. And let me tell you, there are billions and billions of different titles produced. And all a bout different things.

It is true there are anime giving females strong roles, tons. There is a whole genre of anime called "Shoujo." Which are literally translated two anime/manga aimed at girls. Many of these titles feature strong [or equally as pathetic, depending on the author.[ Female characters.

Such as the life loving, young, talented and quite hyper Sana Kurata. The main character in a well loved anime "Kodomo no Omocha." [Childs toy.] Sana is merely a young 11 year old girl who stars frequently in a television show. The program follows her life over a couple of years. While it can be quite silly, it can be extremely realistic as well. It touches on many family related issues. Such as adoption, teen pregnancy, death/divorce, loss of parents, sibling rivalry, etc. "Kodomo no Omocha" is also an incredible love story. But it doesn't have any sex, or nudity, or "exploitation of woman." It is a program aimed at young, primarily female viewers. It teaches children alot of basic morals.

I don't see anything about that, do you?

How about something for a slighter older audience, but of course not hentai. It is prejudiced to say that adults who watch "Cartoons" are pedophiles. That is completely generalized and immature for various reasons. Including, well how do you know what all these "cartoons are about?" Thats right! You only know what a vague few are about.

I believe excellent titles such as "Rurouni Kenshin" have been mentioned before. This can appeal to any audience who is mature enough to handle it. It's the story of a retired Japanese assasin, Kenshin. Who wanders the land and fights to protect the people. But he will never kill. The character of Kenshin is not infact the glory he seems to be. The talented author, Mr Watsuki Nobuhiro [who is by no means a pervert.] explains well Kenshin's love for the land and farming [especially shown in the Original animated video, about Kenshin's past.] His philosophical influence, how he has matured. Kenshin's faults throughout his life, and his amazing defeats.

And Rurouni Kenshin does have violence in it. How could it not, considering the time period and themes? And that Kenshin's past is SET JURING A REAL, VIVID REVOLUTION? A revolution that truly existed? Yes, Kenshin can also update you on your Japanese history.

How about the tale of Gravitation, and when it comes to this one I recommend the manga. You may want to view this comical [and also angst filled] show with an open mind. It does deal with some touchy issues. Some may look upon it as a glossy pretty boy show where everyone is gay, but that infact is not true. Though Gravitation has many light and silly characterizations and events. It also tells us about some very interesting characters. Like the dark novelist, Yuki Eiri. Some of the issues approached are male homosexuality, the media, the music industry, financial issues, love, bitterness, hate, isolation, to be haunted, and even more social taboos.. Such as rape.

But Gravitation is not hentai, porn, whatever. Everything in the above is essential to plot. And to make that convincing, theres not going to be any explicit hentai. And certainly not exploitation of women. And you know what? I love the show.

Is that not enough? I've just pulled two miraculous programs from my hat of that contains thousands of names. No it isn't? Well oh boy. Try some of these, there not all for children because of themes, not hentai. And I do dare you to research atleast one of the titles below,..

Tokyo Babylon
Grave of the Fireflies [tear jerking and absolutely stunning.]
ANY of Hayao Miyazaki's films [heart warming]
Evangelion [please keep an open mind..]
Yami no Matsuei
Angel Sanctuary [mind boggling illustration]
Macross Plus [must see]
Card captor Sakura [good childrens program]
ayashi no ceres [high in drama]
Revolutionary girl Utena [you want symbolism? and STRONG female characters, this is the one for you!]
Fake [light comedy.]
Kareshi Kanojo ni Jiyou [very touching romance]

there are a few of my favorites for various reasons. Go ahead, try a little.

-Emiko.


this is b/s (none / 0) (#174)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 06:03:04 PM PST
dude, maybe if you would take your head out of your ass for once, you would see that there are other religions in the world besides Christianity. what you are is a racist bastard. saying that the only "righteous" culture in the world are American Christians. what right do you have to put down other cultures that you haven't even experienced? if you are the one saying that America is the greatest, and that Christianity is the only acceptable religion, then you are the un-American one. the american dream is to do away with racism and hate in our world, and people like you are the ones that prevent that from happening...people like you disgust me. -Jækü


I am an American (none / 0) (#183)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 07:14:17 PM PST
Damn Straight.


Baka (none / 0) (#185)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 07:28:23 PM PST
This has got to be one of the funniest things I've read in along time.. I can't believe someone actually believes this bullshit..


Pft... x2 (none / 0) (#190)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 07:41:07 PM PST
You are nothing more then racist scum. Stay on your PERFECT country, wich, may I add, is in total DECADENCY. Oh, but nothing to worry about at all, eh? Because you're protected and invulnerable! THAT'S IT! Until you get hit by a bullet, that is.

So, as I already mentioned, you're not immortal or, at last, something worthy of mention, so, here we see that you can't say ANYTHING about what people think or do. Just get your ass off that chair and go "Purify" everyone! Better! Start a war with Asia! Why not? Aren't you great enough to WRITE that hate them? Maybe because you can't do anything more then just siting your butt and writring something random, in a act of despair to escape of your miserable life and be noted by someone? BINGO!

So, before starting to try to act as a man. Show off your face. Yeah. Again, why not? Aren't you protected? What? Are all these "GEEKS" not fair to fight you? What a loser...

Go get a life, racist scum.

And, plus, you haven't archived your goal of being a total idiot in font of us. No... Actually, we are just felling bad for someone like you being a live. Kill Youself.


wow what a fucktard! (none / 0) (#209)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 08:46:05 PM PST
This is perfect example of some pissed off fuck head hiding behind his religion. I would like to know ware all the "god loves every one" talk went. Isn't that the whole thing behind Christianity? I used to be Christian but I have renounced it because I found out it was evil. What has religion ever brought us...? False hopes.... War.....Death, that's it. Man created religion because man wants to feel needed, man needs to know everything.... So what do we do, we invent god.God is a figment of mans ego, mans ego to need to understand everything. Religion is the easiest way to fills our hearts with false hopes of an after life and a happier life. Well I say that is all BS. Too many lives have been taken away because of religion.... More than have been saved by it.

Who started the crusades....? Hmmm oya that's what I thought, Christians, oh and who did the Salem which hunts...oh they were Christians too.....Who kills in the name of "god" oh people who believe in him do. How many murders have been attributed to god...oh about 60% of all murders in the world in 1990 was in the name of "god".

You people sicken me. All you can do is blame blame blame blame blame blame.... But you never take any kind of blame for your self. I watch anime; I would be considered an otaku. I have watched some "hentai" which from my point of view you seem to know allot about.... Hiding something hmmm? Anime has never caused anyone to commit suicide, no one has killed in the name of anime, it is a harmless cartoon. Now it looks like you are the evil one, YOU are the type of person that makes this world a bad place to live in. You discriminate and hurt people all in the name of "god"

Yes I will give religion its just dues. It has brought the best out of people and have joined them together. But this alone can't redeem you. Until there is a religion that does not discriminate and truly lets people come together under no kind of restraint then I will be against it forever. Now do not get me wrong I do not hate people who believe in god, but I do hate people who try and use god to justify things when they are to afread to face the consiquesnese. If I were a god I would be pretty pissed of if someone killed over 6 million Jews in my name. I would be pissed if some asshole thinks that he can go and ruin people's hopes using my name. I would sure as hell be pissed if I had a fucktard saying that he is fighting in my name.

ps: i know the gramer and spelling suck, but i dont feel like fixing them. Espechaly not for a fucktard like you!


Hah... (none / 0) (#223)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 09:34:48 PM PST
Extremes are idiocy. That goes for religion, politics, many other things. Such as 'good' and 'evil'. I figured this out a while ago. Does it make so much sense that I see extremes in morons, and in stupid acts of the past and present...


Inteligence(yes its spelled wrong for a reason) (none / 0) (#341)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 08:14:00 PM PST
I managed to wander across this article through a manga based comic site, and after reading this article and replies i can firmly say one thing. Wow, what a lifeless sheltered boob. I myself am a big fan of anime and manga(for the fact, its called anime films, not manga films, capt. winkey, manga is the serialized comics) and i do take extreme offense to this article and to all of its slandering. I used to be christian, hell i used to put faith in god, but after reading out of the bible, and seeing how a lot of them acted, i got embaressed. These arent caring nurturing men of god, these are bigits, pure, simple, bland. I have since renounced my beliefs and lead a simpler life.

"I can kill cause in god i trust, ha, Its evolution baby"


Cute kid. (none / 0) (#368)
by tkatchev on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 02:15:23 AM PST
You're quite cute, kid. Didja think of all that by yourself? Wow, you're smart for your age! Here, have a nickel. Run along now, before you hurt yourself. Remember, don't play with matches!


--
Peace and much love...




Erikson, you are less of a Christian...... (none / 0) (#414)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 06:50:39 AM PST
You are less of a Christian than Osama Binladen is a muslim, which he is not, no matter what he tells you. I am a christian, yes. However, I don't support organized religion, because all it does is turn out people like you. I may not even be considered a Christian, but I beleive that to be a christian, all you need to beleive in is, my lord, and hopefully yours to, Jesus Christ! Oh, and here is the kind of thing you would say, only more logical: What kind of Christian would use pictures of Jesus to cover up tits? It is no doubt people like you who call Harry Potter, Magic The Gathering, and even Pokemon satanic and evil! The only single thing slightly controversial in Harry Potter is that they CALL it wizardry, where as it is really just saying words and making lights turn on. Things like that do exsist you know, but it would be easier to just clap your hands. Magic the Gathering is in no way evil. All it is is the most strategic card game ever, and it happens to use a word called Magic. Do people that think Magic The Gathering is evil also think Magicians are evil? You can't spell Magician without MAGIC! And WTF, how could any living being beleive Pokemon to be evil? By all means, Disney is way eviler than Pokemon. Do you think that Halloween is evil because we are honoring the dead? God bless America, which beleive it or not is not a communist country ruled by wacked out sudo-christians as you would like it to be, we had to read Harry Potter in school! Well, if you didn't want to you could read the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, but I don't see how that is any better, so you probably think it is Satanic as well. If what you beleive is Satan, really is Satan, than we would be alot better off under his rule! Better that than communism. However you are inncorrect in your view of Satan, you would know this is you went to Church more than once a decade. I knew that and I have only been to church 4 or 5 times. I have seen a very wide variety of Anime from Furi Kuri, to Dragon Ball Z, to Sakura Tsushin. I only watch anime in strictly Japanese with English Subtitles form. Soon enough however, I will be able to watch it completely unaltered once I know more Japanese. You obviously watch dubbed anime, because English is the language of God, right? Most anime isn't Hentai. How could you be such a communist? I supose you will never have a child mr. minister. Well, god tells us to have children, what are you going to do now? There is nothing wrong with the human body, for after all, God gave it to us. I, am a Thirteen year old boy. This is true. However, because of Anime, I am twice as mature, culturaly diverse, and in some cases intelligent as grown men such as yourself, and that person that said he wanted to kill all the Chinese, Mexicans, and blacks. Here is a news flash for ya, GOD DOESN'T HATE OUR GUTS! Why not go back to the first civilization, Mesopotamia, and live there where we where thought of as nothing more than servants to the gods. The good thing about being back there, is that only the Scribes knew how to write, so I wouldn't have the oportunity to read such horrible filth that you have turned out. As a christian I have allways learned that God loves all of us and that we should simply ask forgiveness to God. The vengful god that strikes down jews and blacks, for no reason at all, does not exsist, my freind. Anyone who has ever been to Church knows this. I saw an anime (Yes it was anime) not to long ago about Christianity and god. There was this guy living in some olden time, and he went to the king and said that he would no longer beleive in their gods because they wouldn't bless him with a child despite his offerings and prayers. The king aimed to kill him so he escaped. Our God told him that he was the true god of Heaven and Earth and that they would have a child. So then he goes off and starts to make children. So God tells him that so long as he beleivs in him, that he would bless him and bless everyone that blessed him, all he needed to do was beleive in him. Man! That is some horrible filth them Japs got there! We should hang each and everyone one of them! Incase you have so little of an imagination that you couldn't tell, I was being completely sarcastic. I love the Japanese and Japan more so. I also love America, but despise the kind of satanic country of Communism and force worship that you describe. If America becomes like that, I'll sooner kill the President with my own hands than follow that. Do you have a problem with that?
By the way, I am not angry, I actually am rather hysterical!


You gotta be kidding.... (none / 0) (#428)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 11:30:57 AM PST
Either this is a joke, or I wonder whether you have ever watched anime...

If you don't like it, ok, that's just your opinion, but you have this certain cliché remarks... It just appears that you're writing this as an anti-cliché by ridiculing the comment that is put out by a lot of the press/media/whatever, or that you just have taken over the opinion of the press/media/whatever without even ever having watched anime. Or the third option is that you have only watched Hentai...


You are a moron. (none / 0) (#445)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 04:50:58 PM PST
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Suport Upers.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Research subject before you speak. (none / 0) (#486)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Dec 3rd, 2001 at 07:59:37 PM PST
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so from that standpoint your article was fine. But in the future, research your subject farther than the mainstream and what's hidden in the porn section of your local video store. Anime and manga (two different things) aren't satanic or evil. They are not only for children. Don't try to change the world when you don't really know what's going on in it.


 
yay! (none / 0) (#189)
by Rubette on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 07:38:25 PM PST
You're very right!! *claps* Especially the Gravitation part ^_^.

But the sad part is, he wont listen to a word you say, seeing as that the word "homosexuality" is written in your response. Oh well.

Emiko did /research/, Mr. author, I suggest you do the same.


Hear, hear. (none / 0) (#286)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 07:45:48 AM PST
"Emiko did /research/, Mr. author, I suggest you do the same."

I'm positive that this wasn't the first time this was stated in this thread... so what part of this do you not understand?


 
.....peep going the silly site.... (none / 0) (#227)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 09:39:58 PM PST
Tokyo Babylon(I must say I love this one)
Grave of the Fireflies [tear jerking and absolutely stunning.] (nods head)
ANY of Hayao Miyazaki's films [heart warming] (nods head some more)
Evangelion [please keep an open mind..] (I got a little confused with the hole God and Angels thing but I get it now)
Angel Sanctuary [mind boggling illustration] (I love that one
Card captor Sakura [good childrens program](Kero-chan ish cute ^-^
Revolutionary girl Utena [you want symbolism? and STRONG female characters, this is the one for you!] UTENA UTENA UTENA and JURI!!!!!!! weeee Poor Utena and Anthy sniff the movie was sad..
Fake [light comedy.] (I like this as well)

rather funny this whole site is looks around..ahhhhhhhh but hentai is very nicely drawn and no all people in hentai are not perfect....and yes I am a girl one I got here from a club an Artist club did you know had it not been for Japan this site would look like shit and our computers would look like shit....hell even when I did belive in "god" my prist said that many cultures made up our religion and so forth.....bla I would rather be Pagan the go back to your hell hole of stupidity..... and bye hell I mean the 9 hells from The slayers * great Anime*


 
All I have to say is meh, and you people are sick. (none / 0) (#260)
by Anonymous Reader on Sat Dec 1st, 2001 at 12:22:01 AM PST
This is all so seriously messed up how you all can be so incredibly hypocritical. You preach Christianity, yet your say to "get rid of" the "homosexuals, geeks, amputees, racial minorities and Canadians". You are all incredibly hardcore zealots I must say.

Now, something that truly bothers me is that you people are like Nazis in your own sense. You are willing to commit genocide in the name of a god, which the only thing that you know about him is what is written in some book that was made by people who most likely just made up what they wrote to help others feel better of them selves or to control them.

You are the type of people who will disown a child, because they are born homosexual, just like that bigot Fred Phelps. I don't know why you extremist seem to be all over when you are only minorities. Maybe it just I some how find you people picking corners of circuses, hospitals, and maybe just even harassing pro-choice supporters.

Now, you have come on the subject that anime is bad. I want to know, why is it that you show censored hentai up their rather than pictures of gore, like Tetsuo's mutation (Akira reference), or maybe some other horridly bloody images which depict this violence which has disturbed you so?
I will tell you why Mr. "These people are obviously pedophiles" Because you went to a dammed hentai site just to relieve your self and crop some images your followers would find disturbing.

I wont to know, why is it people like you aren't more enthusiastic at doing something important? Like maybe, I don't know, not pissing the majority of this state you supposedly love?

I swear, I have enough hatred for Christians who say some crap about "Hope your happy come judgment day" or some crap, but having to put up with you zealots and having Fred Phelps lackeys in my own community just pisses me off.

Now, if you must insist to bitch about something, why not fight a little 'holy-war' in the name of a god you believe you can understand against pop music and rap, which would make me very happy you hypocrites.
Majin
P.S. I don't care if you flame me because it will probably be with some stupid remarks about my Agnostic views and me.




 
Anime (none / 0) (#369)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 02:18:39 AM PST
Anime aint evil.. thats just like.. HELLO KITTY being evil.. sheesh.. someone was stoned while writing this


 
I've noticed many geeks like manga and anime (5.00 / 3) (#12)
by Adam Rightmann on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 09:41:57 AM PST
Thank you, Jon, for opening my eyes to this menace.

One thing, I've noticed that many geeks like manga and anime. Many of this same demographic also like computer games and pornography. There seems to be a common thread, a desire for some adult rights, but a lack of adult responsibility and a desire to stay immature forever, perhaps a Peter Pan syndrome.

Ie. they want to have sex, but not with a real woman who needs emotional support and who may have a hairy, physically imperfect body. They want to take risks in combat or business or politics, but want all ill effect to disapper when they click close.

Is there any hope for these emotionally retarded geekfolk? Should they be isolated from normal people so they could pursue there perversions amongst themselves? Of course not, for just like marijuana use leads to hard drug use, cartoon depictions of pedophilia eventually lead to hanging around schoolyards.

I recommend a treatment of avesion therapy, clerical intervention and possible hormonal injections to cause the geeks to grow up, experience adolescence, and beocme interested in being functioning adults, rather than man-children.

We must do this, or our daughters will suffer.


A. Rightmann

Indeed (5.00 / 1) (#13)
by Jon Erikson on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 09:50:41 AM PST
There seems to be a common thread, a desire for some adult rights, but a lack of adult responsibility and a desire to stay immature forever, perhaps a Peter Pan syndrome.

I myself have noticed that there seems to be a lot of fairies amongst "geek" and Liberal elements.

Is there any hope for these emotionally retarded geekfolk?

There is always hope for even the most hardened sinner, as anyone but a Catholic would realise. Repentance is worth any cost, and even in the face of an unwilling recipient, the grace of God is worth any price to achieve.


Jon Erikson
Senior consultant, NPO Technologies


differing moral codes (1.00 / 1) (#27)
by Ravnos on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 11:57:16 AM PST
I myself have noticed that there seems to be a lot of fairies amongst "geek" and Liberal elements.

By fairies, I assume you refer homosexuals, gays, or preferences other than for heterosexual missionary style with the lights out.

Call them what you will, but I feel that you should actually attempt to do a modicum of research before posting and exposing your ignorance. Let's start at the beginning, with your original post.

The worst attack on morality comes in the form of Japanese manga films, which spread a shocking message of immorality under the cover of animation, a cynical move targetting a genre typically aimed at children. These films are supposedly aimed at adults, but a moment's reflection counters this vacuous argument - what kind of grown adult watches cartoons?

Firstly, immorality is always a relative thing. But since your stance is obviously immovable on christianity being anything but the one, right, true way to live I won't go TOO far into arguing that all semetic based religions are a bunch of bunk.

Secondly - who ever discounted amination as a respectable art form, capable of expressing complex ideas and ideoligies? Did you even try to open your mind in hopes of understanding the 5 minutes of Anime you watched while channel surfing late at night?
I challenge you to watch something like Firefly Graveyard or Wings over Honnemaise, or Ghost in the Shell and THEN tell me that anime as a medium and genre is not appropriate for adult viewing. There are all types of quality of works in any medium, and Anime and Manga are no different than silent films, opera, theatre, dance, or that crap that people call "movies" at the 100 screen cineplex.
On to the next bit -

...gratuitous use of violence and anti-Christian symbolism. These films all fall into the fantasy and science-fiction genres (which are little more than a hotbed of paganism and Satanism anyway)

BWAHAHAAAAAA!!!! ROTFLMAO -
ohmigod - this has GOT to be the most IGNORANT thing I've ever read! And I honestly can't believe I'm wasting my time pointing out all of the flaws in your article, but here goes -

Firstly I question your term "anti-christian symbolism" - what is that exactly? but nevermind -
With a broad statment like gratuitous violence, you have just encompassed almost the whole of humanity, especially those of the "chrisitan" faith. I challenge you to find me a violent person who is claims to be pagan. Good luck. On the other hand, I feel much better now that all the violent chrisitans are in afghanistan getting shot to hell by the another semetic religion. Let them kill each other.

Moving on, Christianity has MORE PAGANISM IN IT than an anime fil could ever HOPE to achieve - not that paganism is a bad thing. But seriously - have you put up your druidic CHRISTmas tree yet? Tossed a yule log on the fire? Hung mistle toe? Bought any gifts yet? Told your kids that Santa's coming? And that's just ONE example - don't forget about easter, oops, I mean ishtar.

*sigh*

Dare I go on?

First, use a spell checker - its spelled pedophilia. Secondly, WHAT KINDA DRUGS ARE YOU ON? 'cause I want some.

No seriously - how can you even SUGGEST that anime is pushing pedophilia to children??? First let's get one thing straight - Manga and anime have been around alot longer than disney style animation. Disney borrows more and more anime style with each movie they produce. Secondly, MANGA AND ANIME AREN'T FOR KIDS! Christ - what kind of fucked up person are you anyway, showing mature film like that you kids? Would you show them Glory a live action movie on blacks in the civil war - and arguably one of the most violent films ever made?

I will conced that some "anime" like Pokemon and DragonBall Z ARE oriented towards kids, but hey you've got a fucking job as a parent to raise your kids how you want - and that means that if movies like Bubble Gum Crises are deemed inappropriate by you then DON'T WATCH THEM AND DON'T LET YOUR KIDS WATCH THEM! It's not just your right, it's your responsibility.

Now, that being said, it's also my right to buy and watch one of the largest anime collections if I want to (and I've got a shitload of anime and manga films). But I don't force it on you , I don't force it on your kids, and NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE! There's no great conspiracy in the media to brainwash your kids - and if you're irresponsible enough to leave your kids to be raised by pop culture, then I have to say you sir are a shining example of a floater in the gene pool.

There is always hope for even the most hardened sinner, as anyone but a Catholic would realise. Repentance is worth any cost, and even in the face of an unwilling recipient, the grace of God is worth any price to achieve.

I think that my above comments do an adequte job of disproving this statement - let me be the first unsalvageable hardened sinner you've met.

The Ravnos
FreeSpiritMind.com


hi (none / 0) (#34)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 12:28:20 PM PST
You have quite a lot of false certainty about Meat Space which you articulate very poorly using vague half truths, solecisms and an eclectic mix of font styles. You are just the person I'm looking for. What does this piece of code do?

print "@array contains: [", (join " ", @array), "].\n";

Thanks in advance.


Simple. (none / 0) (#40)
by chuckx on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 12:43:42 PM PST
It prints out the elements of an array. However, you probably want to use this:

print "\@array contains: [", (join " ", @array), "].\n"

By escaping the "@", it will actually print out the statement, "@array contains: ". Otherwise, it will just print out the content of the array twice (first to replace "@array" and next when processing the "join" function).


- chuckx -

Please stop! (2.33 / 3) (#57)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 03:03:07 PM PST
Please stop DoSing Adequacy with your hacking scripts!


Editor, anywhere? (none / 0) (#75)
by chuckx on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 05:01:15 PM PST
Why is this troll still here?

First of all, it's not my script.

Second, it has absolutely nothing to do with a DOS attack.


- chuckx -

 
Differing moral codes? (5.00 / 1) (#39)
by Jon Erikson on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 12:40:05 PM PST
I mean really, there should be no need for a reply at all after reading the subject of your post! As if there were any moral codes other than the one laid out in the Bible!

But since your stance is obviously immovable on christianity being anything but the one, right, true way to live I won't go TOO far into arguing that all semetic based religions are a bunch of bunk.

And your proof for this ridiculous statement is? I'm guessing you're just another product of the Liberal establishment, trained from birth into believing in relativism and the cult of science.

Secondly - who ever discounted amination as a respectable art form, capable of expressing complex ideas and ideoligies?

*sigh* Animation is nothing more than a bastardisation of acting, and simply cannot express the subtle range of emotions that a real person can. As such it's suitable for children's entertainment, but hardly so for something a grown up would want to watch.

Firstly I question your term "anti-christian symbolism" - what is that exactly?

Symbolism that attempts to subvert Christianity obviously. It's hardly a complex phrase is it?

but nevermind - With a broad statment like gratuitous violence, you have just encompassed almost the whole of humanity, especially those of the "chrisitan" faith. I challenge you to find me a violent person who is claims to be pagan.

Atrocious use of punctuation there BTW. And a counterexample for your question is easy - Hitler was a pagan.

Moving on, Christianity has MORE PAGANISM IN IT than an anime fil could ever HOPE to achieve - not that paganism is a bad thing.

Are you really that stupid? Anything that is part of Christianity is Christian. That's just basic logic. Perhaps you should learn some.

First, use a spell checker - its spelled pedophilia. Secondly, WHAT KINDA DRUGS ARE YOU ON? 'cause I want some.

Nonsense - a pedophile is someone with a disgusting fetish for feet. That's not the same thing at all.

No seriously - how can you even SUGGEST that anime is pushing pedophilia to children??? First let's get one thing straight - Manga and anime have been around alot longer than disney style animation.

Wrong. The first example of a manga film was around 1958, a few years before Astro Boy was released. Get your facts straight before attacking me please.

Christ - what kind of fucked up person are you anyway, showing mature film like that you kids?

I would not show that to my children! What kind of sick person are you to even suggest such a thing!

I will conced that some "anime" like Pokemon and DragonBall Z ARE oriented towards kids, but hey you've got a fucking job as a parent to raise your kids how you want - and that means that if movies like Bubble Gum Crises are deemed inappropriate by you then DON'T WATCH THEM AND DON'T LET YOUR KIDS WATCH THEM!

Is this the same Pokemon that shows children summoning demons to do their bidding? My children won't be watching Satanism, that's for sure!

I think that my above comments do an adequte job of disproving this statement - let me be the first unsalvageable hardened sinner you've met.

Sadly there are sinners out there such as yourself which refuse to see the Truth, yes. But I can only pray that one day someone finds you and brings you into the light of the Lord, whether you want it or not. After all, it is every Christian's duty to hold the souls of their fellow men in paramount importance.


Jon Erikson
Senior consultant, NPO Technologies


hitler was a pagan? (none / 0) (#63)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 03:25:06 PM PST
you might want to check up on your history there bubba... hitler was a good christian man and was backed by the bush family. the bush family has never done any wrong have they? putting aside the whole shrub stealing the presidency thing.


 
Err, Hitler was not a pagan... (none / 0) (#67)
by Deadly Tedly on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 03:28:50 PM PST
...he was a Catholic. He was born in the Church, baptised and served as an altar boy. He was never excommunicated and always maintained he was a true Catholic (even if he was the only person who thought so). Certainly we Catholics would like to forget that, but it just goes to show that there can be many different interpretations of a religion, some rather extreme, even though it contains a simple list of instructions like the Ten Commandments.

link 1 link 2 link 3

Secondly, if you think that pornographic anime cartoons are intended for children, you are delusional. Just because it is animated, doesn't mean it is for kids. Animation is used as an art form to express all kinds of messages, humorous, pornographic, religious and otherwise. It is no different from painting, sculpture, theater and literature. And like all those other forms, animation can be good, bad, offensive or tame DT


Exactly! (none / 0) (#74)
by Jon Erikson on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 04:28:30 PM PST
...he was a Catholic. He was born in the Church, baptised and served as an altar boy. He was never excommunicated and always maintained he was a true Catholic (even if he was the only person who thought so).

Exactly! He was a Catholic, who are many things but most certainly not Christian!

Christians worship the Lord, not idols and the Virgin Whore. The filthy idolatry of the Catholic "faith" marks them out as being pagans through and through, although insidiously the pretend to be of the True Faith which makes them all the more dangerous in my Book.


Jon Erikson
Senior consultant, NPO Technologies


Let me get this straight.... (5.00 / 1) (#82)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 06:47:32 PM PST
See, this is the saddest part of modern Christianity. You claim to be a Christian, and I assume that you are a member of a Protestant Church. On that assumption I would like to point out that without the Catholic Church, there would be no Protestantism for you to be a member of. The Catholic Church is decended from the early churches founded on Jesus' teachings. I also find it disturbing that as a good Christian, who is supposed to love his brother, you are exhibiting blatant racism in your hatred of Japanese produced anime.
Also, the individual earlier who spoke of paganism in Christianity, is absolutly right. Every year I assume that you put up a Christmas tree and tell your kids about Santa. Both of these symbols have their roots in pagan religion and history, but were incorporated into the Christian celebration of Christmas because early Christians were converted pagans and wished to continue those traditions that they felt did not conflict with their new faith.
I do hope that this has served to educate you just a bit, and I sincerely hope that you will learn to bit even a bit more tolerant of those who are not like you. I will say for the record that I was raised in a Christian home and attended Church for 17 years straight before God called me to do his bidding in other ways. By virtue of my lifestyle and beliefs I no longer fall under the constraints of your Christian Church but I do have a very close relationship with God. I would ask that if you attack any statement that I have made it not be my beliefs, I simply ask that you show my beliefs the same respect I have shown yours. Thank you.

"May the Creator bless and guide you along the pathway you choose."


 
Like I said... (5.00 / 1) (#90)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 09:02:37 PM PST
...different interpretations.

Like it or not, Roman Catholics were there first. Even if you have issues with the Catholic Church, at least appreciate that they kept the Word alive for several hundred years in the dark catacombs before anyone had anything to protest about and move to a different flavor (relativism anyone?). Maybe "Love your brother" means nothing to your brand of "CHRISTianity". Maybe "Virgin Whore" is not a contradiction in terms to you. Maybe Jesus was American, not Palestinian, even if America didn't exist for 800 more years. Hopefully, you do understand the bit about shaking the dust from your feet and moving on.

DT


"Catholics were FIRST?!" (none / 0) (#96)
by tkatchev on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 10:23:46 PM PST
Read some history books, your statements are simply ridiculous. Catholics split off from the Christian church around the turn of the first millenium.


--
Peace and much love...




I know I'm late and all that... (none / 0) (#598)
by Kitsune Aywen on Sat Dec 22nd, 2001 at 09:07:05 AM PST
No, neither the catholics nor the protestants were first. The church 'split in two'. The mainstream back then was more catholic than protestian, but each fraction will tell you the other is the splinter group, even though it doesn't really matter. ^^ Originally, they weren't organised in a church in the first place.

Kitsune


that has nothing to do with it. (none / 0) (#603)
by nathan on Sat Dec 22nd, 2001 at 11:31:11 PM PST
You Western-centered ignoramuses are a riot. There's more to the Christian world than Catholics and Protestants, you know. Man, you probably think Zen Buddhism originated in Japan.

Anyway, the original Christian church had assorted schools of thought within it, some of which generated modern churches. If I recall correctly, there were eleven principal churches, such as those of Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, and Alexandria. Some traditions originating from these churches are quite distinct from anything credal in the Western churches. For instance, the Monophysites (Nestorians) believe in the unified nature of Jesus (ie, He had one nature that was both divine and human, as opposed to the Western churches, which believe that Jesus had two natures.) The history of church succession is very tangled.

The Great Schism, in the XIIth century, is the name given to the split between the Byzantine church and the Roman church. The Pope and the Ecumenical Patriarch excommunicated one another over issues of primacy. Since then, the Eastern church has claimed that its practices are those of the original Apostolic church, which is to say the church established by the Apostles.

This is what Mr. Tkatchev is talking about. I advise you to do much reading before responding further.

Nathan
--
Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

I'm well aware ... (none / 0) (#612)
by Kitsune Aywen on Tue Dec 25th, 2001 at 03:00:58 AM PST
... of the fact that there are more Christian churches than the two which are 'mainstream' today. I chose a random post from this arguement to reply to, because I was sick of people trying to decide which church was first - the two 'mainstream' churches today became existant at the same time, at least if you see them in contrast to each other. But it's beside the point anyways.

Kitsune


nice try (none / 0) (#613)
by nathan on Tue Dec 25th, 2001 at 10:18:17 AM PST
...but it's obvious Mr Tkatchev was talking about the Catholic/Orthodox schism, and you responded as though he were talking about the Catholic/Protestant bifurcation instead.

You are weak! You will be destroyed!

Nathan
--
Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

 
Uh huh, Who is the idiot? (none / 0) (#687)
by atenHi on Sun Feb 24th, 2002 at 08:01:20 PM PST
"You Western-centered ignoramuses are a riot. There's more to the Christian world than Catholics and Protestants, you know. Man, you probably think Zen Buddhism originated in Japan."

Not that I have any argument here, but nathan is not the Wondersmartboy he claims to be. Zen Buddhism DID originate in Japan. It is a mix of Buddhism and Shinto.

HAHA! Caught you!



 
lol. (none / 0) (#647)
by BillyGreene on Sun Jan 13th, 2002 at 12:37:34 AM PST
That's sad.

You want the other person to read their history books yet you appear to know nothing about history?

The protestent reformation occured about 500 years after the turn of the millenia.

The protestent church broke from the catholic church from political reasons more then religious reasons. The religious reasons revolved around the papacy, which spiraled into the use of idols etc.

Catholics DID NOT SPLIT OFF, you split from us.






 
wait a second.... (none / 0) (#213)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 09:07:19 PM PST
Christians worship the Lord, not idols and the Virgin Whore. The filthy idolatry of the Catholic "faith" marks them out as being pagans through and through, although insidiously the pretend to be of the True Faith which makes them all the more dangerous in my Book

First: Ok so you dislike Catholics enough to call the Virgin Mary a whore, which is odd. the definition of a whore is: whore (hôr, hr)n.
A prostitute.
A person considered sexually promiscuous.
Mary is in no way a prostitute, and therefore not a whore.
Second: Does this mean by any chance that you don't like Jesus as well, he was jewish after all and so he would have had different views than you.


Heh, where are the humans? (none / 0) (#519)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Dec 6th, 2001 at 10:06:47 PM PST
No he was probably referring to various cultural "sects" of Catholocism that place heavy emphasis on Mary, such as Latin American Catholocism. Some times this worship can get heavy handed at times yes, but that in no way justifies the comments Mr. Anti-Everything-But-Me put forth. As such I have just reread Gulliver's Travels, for those who may not know, written by a dean of a catholic church in ireland... and find that it puts all of this rubbish into perspective. At the very end Gulliver has returned from his travels around the world and after many agreeable and disagreeable ones finds that the human race is such an absurdity from all of our haughtiness and pride whilst being pretty disgusting beings. It was the pride part that was fun to read though... A good and relevant quote would be: "...a fancy would sometimes take a Yahoo to retire into a corner, to lie down and howl, and groan, and spurn away all that came near him, although he were young and fat, and wanted neither food nor water; nor did the servants imagine what could possibly ail him. And the only remedy they found was to set him to hard work, after which he would infallibly come to himself. To this I was silent out of partiality to my own kind; yet here I could plainly discover the true seeds of [a type of depession], which only seizeth on the *lazy*, the *luxerious*, and the *rich*; who if they were forced to undergo the *same regimen*, I would undertake for the cure." i.e. quit whining, especially when you're too darned proud (that's one of those deadly sins, right? lol) to actually see your own wretchedness. and all that without ranting about El Hazard myself... Hyper-Fujisawa-kick!!!


 
VIRGIN WHORE?! (none / 0) (#367)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 02:14:58 AM PST
OK, now that's just retarded. What is the matter with you?! I'm not a Catholic, but Mary was God's chosen vessel to bear the Christ-child. A VIRGIN. Where are you getting the WHORE from?! By stating this you are saying that Christ was born from a whore - and that the Bible is lying - therefore GOD is lying, since the Bible is His divine inspired Word. Just because you do NOT agree with Catholics DOES NOT give you the right to trash Mary - by doing that you're showing your complete ignorance and not only that, you're snubbing your nose at God's desicions.


 
True Faith (none / 0) (#432)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 12:26:35 PM PST
Ah, much like you claim to be of the 'True Faith'. Who is to say which is 'True' and which is false? You? I think not. I, personally, wouldn't trust you to do the job correctly, anyway. No one who prejudices as you do can objectively state what is right and what is wrong. I'm not saying that I'm any sort of a good judge of the correctness of any religion, either. Mr. Erikson, in my personal opinion, I think it would be best for all if the entire subject was dropped, or, at the very least, you use some tact in your future posts. Near future, preferably.
The problem seems to be in the fact that you have been attacking various subjects without taking into account the possibility, however slight, that you may have begun while still uninformed. If you'd like, I'm sure I could offer you some excellent anime to view that even I, someone without even a working VCR, have managed to see. If you would take the time to take it apart, piece by piece, and analyze it for what it was meant to be, you would see that it is not necesarily 'evil', depending on what you're analyzing. Many anime are somewhat immoral, I admit, but those are the anime not esigned for moralists to view. They were the ones designed to make money off of those who enjoy watching such. In a previous post, I have offered to you the anime 'Neon Genesis Evangelion' to watch, a metaphor in itself of various Christian ideas. Now I also offer to show you a show aimed at teenagers, female ones in particular, but also males. 'El Hazard: Wanderers' is an anime TV series that has little, if any, immorality in it. Aside from the antagonist of the series doing his evil deeds, but that's generally expected, isn't it? If you don't like the anime after you see it, that's perfectly fine. But I seriously doubt your righteousness when you discredit something you've not seen. Granted, that was a bit of a hypocritical statement itself. I, myself, am prejudiced against American movies and TV shows, based on only about a few dozen or so of each. Then again, I'm talking about the recent things. And that's only really commercials for most of them. But I'm sure you get the idea. And at this point, I'm rambling. Shut up time for the Nintaku.

--Nintaku, one of the few people who ramble about El Hazard

'A UFO! Makoto, look! Somebody, look!! Hey, where is it going? Come back here! You're supposed to abduct people when they're alone in remote places! Don't they read the tabloids?' -Nanami Jinnai, El Hazard: Wanderers


 
So what am I? (none / 0) (#449)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:48:52 PM PST
I'm LDS. If you think of Catholics as idol worshippers, and evil-doers, and pagans, what am I? WHAT AM I?!!!! Retard.

You know, you were doing just fine. You had your opinions and everything. You were headed straight to Heaven until that last comment there. I just wish I could see the look on your face when you don't end up on the right hand of God like you think you are.


the hell? (none / 0) (#569)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 16th, 2001 at 02:48:45 AM PST
whats wrong with pagans???


 
I cannot believe you. (none / 0) (#559)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Dec 14th, 2001 at 09:30:21 PM PST
I am very offended by your comment about Catholics. I was raised Catholic. I go to church. I worship God and Jesus. I don't worship idols. The Roman Catholic church was around before any other Christian church. The reason we have so many denominations in the Christian Church is because groups of people didn't agree with the way the church was being run (or in the case of the Church of England didn't want to stay married), so they broke away and formed another church. Another way to believe.
Also, Hitler being a Catholic does not mean a thing. There have been many cruel and horrible people in other religions.


 
My toughts on the subject (none / 0) (#78)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 29th, 2001 at 05:17:50 PM PST
I mean really, there should be no need for a reply at all after reading the subject of your post! As if there were any moral codes other than the one laid out in the Bible!

There are over 270 religions with a rather large number of followers that state they are the true and only; I think my point here is obvious and refutes your argument.

But since your stance is obviously immovable on christianity being anything but the one, right, true way to live I won't go TOO far into arguing that all semetic based religions are a bunch of bunk.
And your proof for this ridiculous statement is? I'm guessing you're just another product of the Liberal establishment, trained from birth into believing in relativism and the cult of science.

Hipocrisy is blatant here. You have no proof, other than fait, of your statements (please don't call what you do not agree "ridiculous", that just won't help). I could equally guess you are just another product of the dominant Christian establishment, trained from birth into believing in the Word of The Lord (notice that I'm respecting the capitalization of all references to the christian God, clearly trying to have a friendly exchange of ideals without offending your religious beliefs) and the submission to Him. On an additional note, science is not a cult by the definition on the dictionary. Destructive, doomsday religious groups can be literally considered cults, not science.

Secondly - who ever discounted amination as a respectable art form, capable of expressing complex ideas and ideoligies?
*sigh* Animation is nothing more than a bastardisation of acting, and simply cannot express the subtle range of emotions that a real person can. As such it's suitable for children's entertainment, but hardly so for something a grown up would want to watch.

I differ. Good animaters (that, by your chain of thought, could be compared to good actors) take an incredible amount of time considering all the little details of the image (color, brightness, details, etc), the sequence of images, the sounds and the story (Ghost in the shell and Evangelion are excelent animation examples of exceptional art and sound with an incredible deep, intelligent and captivating moral story, that criticizes our society and warns us of what would happen if we take certain attitudes). Also, your attempt to define a child and an adult as something totally opposite and ridiculing adults that watch denominated "children entertainment" lacks a good base to stand. Children grow at different rates and some of their tastes do not go away with age and there is not a standard of evolution nor an assurance that they will fade away of "childish" things.

I challenge you to find me a violent person who is claims to be pagan.

(refering to Ravnos) Paganism is not anti-christianity, it is a term used to label a collection of Earth-based religions. And I really don't see your point here; even if there wasn't any violent pagan, it would prove nothing.

Hitler was a pagan.

Hitler was neither a pagan or christian; Hitler recognized that the Church, and Christianity as a whole, was not an immediate threat to his plans. He believed in his German Aryan God, which was supposedly the thought path that began his Aryan supremacy goals. Most Pagan Gods or Goddesses are not blonde haired and blue eyed (many aren't even portrayed as a material entity at all).

Moving on, Christianity has MORE PAGANISM IN IT than an anime fil could ever HOPE to achieve - not that paganism is a bad thing.
Are you really that stupid? Anything that is part of Christianity is Christian. That's just basic logic. Perhaps you should learn some.

I think that Ravnos intended to transmit the idea that Christianity was inspired by the paganism that was around in the time that it was rising.

First, use a spell checker - its spelled pedophilia. Secondly, WHAT KINDA DRUGS ARE YOU ON? 'cause I want some.
Nonsense - a pedophile is someone with a disgusting fetish for feet. That's not the same thing at all.

To Ravnos: that kind of behavior is, at my eyes, deplorable and highly insultive. Respect those that do not agree with you and respect will be returned to you. To Jon Erikson: a pedophile is someone that molests children; it has nothing to do with those with feet fetish.

Is this the same Pokemon that shows children summoning demons to do their bidding? My children won't be watching Satanism, that's for sure!

This a usual misconception between satanism and satan worship. Please read this for more information.

I think that my above comments do an adequte job of disproving this statement - let me be the first unsalvageable hardened sinner you've met.
Sadly there are sinners out there such as yourself which refuse to see the Truth, yes. But I can only pray that one day someone finds you and brings you into the light of the Lord, whether you want it or not. After all, it is every Christian's duty to hold the souls of their fellow men in paramount importance.

I already discussed the matter of the "Truth", so there is no need to repeat that. But, the two sentences that follow it sincerely irritate me; we have the right to pratice our beliefs, as long as it doesn't interfere with the well being or beliefs of the others. I ask of you to not try to impose christianity upon me, just as I ain't trying to impose anything upon you.

For the record, I'm not an atheist, I'm an empirical agnostic. Oh, and pardon any orthographical error that you might enconter in this comment.


 
How closed minded.. >.< (1.00 / 1) (#194)
by Anonymous Reader on Fri Nov 30th, 2001 at 07:59:14 PM PST
How can you call yourself an Americian? How can you say that there is only one right religion? How are you so sure that the anime or manga creators are in line with Saten? How do you even know if they even believe such an entity exists?

I find your artical very poorly done indeed. Firstly you watch some hentai and then apply it to the rest of the Japanese animation. That is stereotyping, and I will point out stereotypes always seem to end up wrong. For example, am I to believe all Christians as openminded as a rock? That they are all puritian wannabes? I think not, especially since I was baptized as one.

You also try and say that those who are open enough to say that Japanese animation is a thing of evil are trying to force it down your throut. Then you turn around and are doing just what you are objecting to, you are trying to shove the OPINION that its Japanese Animation is evil.

And besides, if Japanese Animation is that evil, then how come God has not ridden the world of such a 'plague'?

*Marie*


 
YOU are an idiot. And I mean that in a bad way. (none / 0) (#446)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 2nd, 2001 at 05:33:08 PM PST
<i> *sigh* Animation is nothing more than a bastardisation of acting, and simply cannot express the subtle range of emotions that a real person can. As such it's suitable for children's entertainment, but hardly so for something a grown up would want to watch. </i>

So, uh, you're saying that Bugs Bunny isn't suitable entertainment? Or are you just referring to the "red-headed stepchild" of animation, or Japanese anime? Dammit, if you want to prove a point