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Votes: 11

 objectivist club

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Nov 12, 2001
So as soon as I get a new job, a bunch of Randists have to come along and give me a pain in the neck.

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The Ayn Rand institute, in the tradition of other Christian evangelical organisms, has started funding campus clubs. Here, they've given the club enough money to publish a newspaper and register a domain name.

This is more recognition than any of these secret "self-abusers" have ever had, so their first paper had to cause a big fuss. Sigh sigh. They had to write not one, but two articles arguing that Native Canadians are poorly off, not because of prejudice, mistreatment, or (understandable) familial maladaption, statistically speaking, to capitalist culture. No, it's because they're too collectivist.

Now, how Natives are any more collectivist than ordinary Canadians is up for grabs. And anyway, assorted student organizations, including the one for which I work, got their panties in quite a bunch indeed. So now I have to write the club a letter saying why they ought to watch their step.

This is my job; I can't refuse. But while I don't like the Objectionables very much, I also don't like shutting them up. I'm going to write that their articles border on hate speech due to a willful disregard for the effects of past abuses (which is true as far as it goes,) but I'm worried that no-one will be able to criticize anyone if this keeps up.

How much do I suck for selling out this much? Remember, I really, really need the money, which is a big reason that I didn't quit, yet anyway.


You're not "selling out". (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by tkatchev on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 07:37:47 AM PST
You're not "selling out" unless you get cold, hard cash out of the deal. Otherwise, you're just an old-fashioned jackass.

Peace and much love...

Oh my... (none / 0) (#9)
by jin wicked on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 05:16:19 PM PST
Thank you. I felt awful all day, but that made me laugh. Nothing personal, Nathan... :)

"Ars longa, vita brevis...Art is long, life is short."

I stand corrected. (none / 0) (#10)
by nathan on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 05:23:36 PM PST
If you don't have any principles, there's no danger of comprimising them!

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

How is it selling out ? (none / 0) (#2)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 08:31:33 AM PST
Let the randites buy their own fucking web server if they want to spout their objectivist claptrap. Hell, you will be giving equal opportunities to any questionable group that comes along.

Anyway, whatever you do, you have the legitimate defense that you are 'only following orders' and lets face it, freedom of speech is a highly overrated and expensive luxury. Europeans realized this a long time ago. Perhaps its time you Americans gave it a little more thought, and in-depth analysis.

The only real hate speech (1.00 / 1) (#3)
by Anonymous Reader on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 09:49:47 AM PST
is ignorant ranting against Objectivism.

Now it is understandable that vitriolic liberals hate Rand and what her enduring legacy stands for. But they conveniently forget that her principles are the only ones that have been shown to work. Countries with more socialistic policies have failed. Look what happened to the USSR. China is rapidly moving to capitalism .. even they are smart enough to figure out what works and what doesn't. The economies of Europe are in the tank, and the entire continent is marred by burning trash barrels and mile-long lines of hungry citizens lined up for a few slices of moldy bread. And isn't it funny how the decline of the US seems to be directly correlated with our creeping socialism. Terrorists weren't crashing planes into buildings before FDR enacted Social Security. School shootings weren't happening on a regular basis before we started handing out unemployment and "welfare" benefits hand over fist.

No, if you ask me, the reason you hate Objectivism is because you know that it is right, and it pisses you off. Well, there's not a damn thing I can do to help you.

Yeah... (none / 0) (#4)
by hauntedattics on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 10:30:40 AM PST
So let's go back to a time before planes, before buildings and before school. The 14th century rocked, dude.

No. (none / 0) (#6)
by tkatchev on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 11:21:44 AM PST
Objectivism == COMMUNISM.

Face it, any ideology not based on God is doomed to degenerate into an oppressive zombie-worshipping death cult. History has shown this to be true repeatedly, over and over and over again. I hope you're not going to argue with history, are you?

Peace and much love...

You mistyped (none / 0) (#7)
by Mendax Veritas on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 12:57:37 PM PST
Face it, any ideology is doomed to degenerate into an oppressive zombie-worshipping death cult. History has shown this to be true repeatedly, over and over and over again. I hope you're not going to argue with history, are you?
There were a few extra words in your comment that shouldn't have been there. As quoted above, I have corrected your text in the interest of factual and historic accuracy. No charge.

Facetious comments aside... (none / 0) (#8)
by tkatchev on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 01:52:37 PM PST
You're quite right, actually; if any philosophy or lifestyle is truly based on God, then it has no business calling itself an ideology. The word[1] "ideology" implies a cold, dehumanizing, secular-liberalist mode of thought.

[1] Oh boy, now the dictionary-fetishist liberalists are really going to have fun with this...

Peace and much love...

Selling out? (none / 0) (#5)
by T Reginald Gibbons on Mon Nov 12th, 2001 at 11:10:06 AM PST
I'd be a little more concerned by the fact that, since objectivists tend to behave like spoiled teenagers, your letter may embroil you in a long and pointless ideological battle, which will inevitably end in an objectivist firebombing.

My advice is to move to a campus or country that offers effective protection against the threat of objectivist violence.

commin home (none / 0) (#11)
by Anonymous Reader on Sun Dec 9th, 2001 at 02:07:09 PM PST
I wish I knew where you lived so I could get you....


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