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Anthrax
A sad reflection of the declining standards of America 4%
A bunch of assholes with nothing better to do than offend people 1%
Without merit, artistic or otherwise 1%
Breakin' the law... Breakin' the law... 2%
Not as good as they were before Joey left the band 7%
Whoah dude - Anthrax ROCKS!!! 59%
Anthrax ? They still around ? I thought they went out in the early 1990's 5%
Wouldn't know satire if it smacked them upside the head with an aluminium baseball bat 7%
Please please, no more Anthrax stories. 10%

Votes: 91

 Anthrax - Some factual corrections, but no apology.

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Oct 25, 2001
 Comments:
A few days ago, I wrote an article about the 'thrash metal' band Anthrax. One or two of you pointed out a few factual errors in my article, I would like to take the opportunity to correct them.

I have been taken to task by the other editors here at the most controversial site on the Internet, and they have requested that I set the record straight to preserve adequacy's reputation as the Internet's premier source of controversial news and opinions.

So here goes, and now maybe you teenage metalhead morons could please lay off with the death threats ? It does not do your image any good, and it doesn't scare me.

And please make sure you understand me, I am correcting factual errors only. My argument that Anthrax must change their name is still valid, and still stands. In fact during the course of my research I discovered another tastelessly named band, "Biohazard" who are riding roughshod over people's feelings just like Anthrax. I'm tempted to add them to my campaign.

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I did a bit more background reading on the band, and spent some time at www.anthrax.com reading the fascinating details of the history of the band.

Here are the errors in my article, I hope I have not missed any.

  • Anthrax are not attempting to 'cash in' on bioterrorism
  • Anthrax are not a Grind-core band, they are thrash - a completely different genre of rock.
  • Anthrax's Album 'Spreading the Disease' is not new, and contains no songs praising bioterrorism.
  • There is no evidence that Anthrax ever spent any time in an Air conditioned Winnebago
  • Anthrax are not a 'speed metal' band. Speed metal is totally different to thrash.
  • Dave Mustaine is not a member of Anthrax. Any anti-Napster statements were made by him, and not by members of the band Anthrax.
  • Joey Belladonna is not the lead singer of the band
  • Anthrax are not 'Death Metal' - they are thrash - a completely unrelated and totally different style of music
  • Anthrax have had that name for nearly 20 years, and so it was not an attempt to cash in on current events.

    Hopefully this will set the record straight. God alone knows how so many easily verifiable errors made their way into my article. It would almost have been funny, were it not so serious.

    Which brings me on to a final thought. Perhaps Anthrax do have a right to keep their name - who am I to judge them ? I suspect that legally there is nothing any of us can do to prevent them exercising their constitutional rights to freedom of speech. However we can influence them in a more direct way - via our wallets.

    Its clear that Anthrax have no intention of changing their deeply offensive name, so I am suggesting that every concerned reader of adequacy.org boycotts Anthrax until they see the error of their ways, and rename themselves. (I would accept a temporary renaming, until the Anthrax scare is over).

    By bringing the huge numbers of adequacy readers together to exert economic pressure on Anthrax and their record label, we can force them to listen to our concerns.

    When their sales figures plummet, we will soon see whether they are still keen to maintain their grossly offensive nomenclature.

    I apologise for the factual errors in my story. I can only lay the blame squarely at the feet of the other editors at this site. They and they alone allowed the article in question to stay on the front page for such a long time. Even a cursory read by those lazy workshy goodfornothings would have revealed so many glaring errors that the article was almost a parody of poor journalism.

    But on the issue of the band name ? Three words: Change it now.


  • Our concerns? (none / 0) (#13)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 06:34:43 AM PST
    we can force them to listen to our concerns.
    Don't you mean your concerns?




     
    Anthrax (none / 0) (#14)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 07:23:22 AM PST
    I found your lack of professionalism in reporting to be utterly offensive. It is bad enough that you are far too lazy to do good work in researching your knee-jerk article on a band that has been around for twenty years, but that is almost eclipsed by your attempt to shirk any personal responsibilty by putting the errors off on the editors. Now you add Biohazard to your list. Perhaps you should actually go to the trouble of interviewing some of these people before you go spewing your ignorance and judgement. People like you don't help the problem, but merely sit back and exacerbate it.


    What is wrong with judgement ? (5.00 / 2) (#16)
    by dmg on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 07:40:50 AM PST
    I judge Anthrax and Biohazard to be offensive names for bands. And I am ENTITLED to my opinion. You seem to be advocating some sort of moral system where nothing is right or wrong ?

    Can you imagine if we lived in a world where nobody judged anyone ? Criminals would be running free, rapists would be raping everyone, murderers would be killing people and the events of Sept 11th would be commonplace.

    Is that the kind of non-judgemental world you want to live in ? Because if it is, you can cram it up your ass.

    Anthrax have an offensive name, and they point-blank refuse to acknowledge the hurt and irritation they are causing to the population of the USA.

    In these times when opening a piece of mail can be like a game of Russian Roulette, how can Anthrax carry on like nothing happened ?



    time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
    -- MC Hawking

    Nothing happened? (none / 0) (#20)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:46:21 AM PST
    They aren't carrying on like nothing happened. They have postponed a tour, postponed the recording of a live album, and a part of a fund-raising concert for the New York fire department.

    Sounds to me like they've done a lot more than you have to help out in these terrible times.


     
    Enjoy your opinion (none / 0) (#34)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 11:36:00 AM PST
    Enjoy your opinion. There is freedom of thought. I am glad you speak out and exercise your rights to free speech. It helped me identify someone whom I shouldn't bother to listen to.

    Thanks,
    Dr. Germ


    dr. germ (none / 0) (#51)
    by YOUARESTUPID on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 09:12:34 PM PST
    because of your less than clearly aimed rant, i don't know if you are for the band or against them. you beat me toche. (if you point out that misspelling tochetwo) either way, if someone has a valid point you should listen, consider, learn, consider again, then condemn. Otherwise you are just sinking to the level of ignorant-snob. That level is pretty low. like near-hell low. again if your for the band i'm sorry. if your against, maybe you should look into learning. or you could just leave 'em alone.


     
    What?? (none / 0) (#37)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 12:59:55 PM PST
    You liken the name of a band to rapists runing free? Are you a frggin moron? What a hysterical reactionist. I too at first thought the article was a joke, now I realize it is the website and its author that is a joke.

    If I named my band Influenza would that be horrible? If not is it because the Flu doesnt kill? It used to in old times, so was it previously offensive? If we cure Anthrax so that nobody dies can Scot and the boys keep their name?

    Jackass!


     
    anthrax rapes woman! (none / 0) (#47)
    by YOUARESTUPID on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:28:24 PM PST
    Like the man said Hysterical reactionist. Do yourself a favor...know something. Real metalheads do live by a code of conduct-mind your own buisness. To elaborate, if I don't physically harm (without provocation), or literally harrass you- and if we disagree, we leave each other alone. Now I, for one, would like to exercise this belief (by the way I believe in god) but minddeadwalkinzombienazis like you and a LOT of people on this site feel that thier opinion is the only one that matters. Personally, if you showed me irrefutable evidence that proved anthrax have been "lying in wait" of this horror for 20 years just to "cash" in now, I would concede. Good luck finding that. you'd have to post more retractions than that crackpot who wrote the article. As i said in an earlier (later, depending on your narrow viewpoint) rant, metal is basically a reaction and expression of the revolting times we live in. Pray that the omen Megadeth carry never comes true. (if you think that Megadeth is also an offensive name thank the senate-it's a senators referall to what would happen if we unloaded the worlds nuclear resources). These names are not picked in hopes of a "death lottery" paying off only if thier name happens. They are picked as warnings, omens of the horrors we as "HUMAN BEINGS" inflict on one another. Anthrax do not wish people to die of anthrax (they also don't count on your dollars, they have said themselves 'metal's not supposed to be popular' from which it can be infered that money is not big on thier wish list, music is), Megadeth doesn't wish for nuclear holocaust, napalm death doesn't wish for napalm death. Just like you they are afraid of it, unlike you they forsaw the horrible possibility. They knew that there are hearts dark enough to want everyone dead, To cleanse the earth. Four months ago you would have called these bands paranoid. Four months ago the bands themselves may have thought they were just paranoid. Paranoia is funny...it ceases to exist when the paranoid are right.


     
    one more thing (none / 0) (#50)
    by YOUARESTUPID on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 09:05:51 PM PST
    the only thing "irritating" about anthrax is the disease. Maybe they should name a disease ADEQUACY then this site would become to you as it is to me-truly irritating.


     
    Have some respect for the victims of Sept 11th. (none / 0) (#119)
    by Anonymous Reader on Tue Oct 30th, 2001 at 12:56:35 PM PST
    My friend of fourteen years died in New York on Sept 11th. Anthrax was his favorie band.

    He would NOT want them to change their name.


     
    A new name for the band (5.00 / 1) (#15)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 07:33:02 AM PST
    I think the band needs a new name - one that reflects that the band is moving on. How about POST-ANTHRAX?



    Bacillus (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:48:49 AM PST
    I still think they should change their name to Bacillus anthracis. Then they could still be known to laymen as Anthrax, while the ignorant censors would get off their backs.


     
    I must be God (none / 0) (#17)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:19:42 AM PST
    You said "God alone knows how so many easily verifiable errors made their way into my article. "

    I know why you made so many errors. You didn't do any research and thought your audience would not. You thought that putting your factsss in would make for a stronger argument. Once the truth is dicovered, your argument falls like a house of cards in a mild breeze.

    I am not God, but even I know why you made those errors. And that above statement is just another one.


     
    My music (5.00 / 2) (#18)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:29:11 AM PST
    Hi! I have been inspired by the tragic events. I lead a Gospel band. We are currently working our very first album, getting a record deal, etc. We have decided to name our group "Adequacy" and our first record is going to be called "Cashing in on Tragedy". The tracks are as follows: "Knock them Down", "Death from Above", "Breathe it in", "Fear the spores", "Mail Bomb", "I Kill for God", "Sinners must surrender", "Jihad", "Suffering under the Rubble", "United we fail", "Diseased and Rotting", "Deadly Delivery" and "Jesus can't save you"


    HAAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! (0.00 / 1) (#120)
    by Anonymous Reader on Tue Oct 30th, 2001 at 02:38:55 PM PST
    I AM LAUGHING SO HARD i CAN BARELY TYPE. I'M CRYING AND MY RIBS HURT. YOU MADE MY DAY!!!


     
    DELETE THIS (0.00 / 1) (#124)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 1st, 2001 at 04:16:51 PM PST
    TOO FUNNY!!! BRAVO!


     
    Look out Anthrax! (none / 0) (#19)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:42:15 AM PST
    By bringing the huge numbers of adequacy readers together to exert economic pressure on Anthrax and their record label, we can force them to listen to our concerns.

    Yeah, that will be a real loss of sales, because I'm sure you bought all of their old albums, hey dmg?


    The campaign against Anthrax. (none / 0) (#22)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:59:56 AM PST
    The more pressure you exert, the more Anthrax will profit. You'll give them more publicity, and the more you tell people that they can't have something, the more they'll want it.

    So I'll gladly help with your campaign to encourage people to "boycott" Anthrax, so that more people will hear of them.


     
    You WEREN'T JOKING??!! (1.00 / 1) (#23)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 09:08:24 AM PST
    When I read your original article, I thought it was a brilliantly-written parody, poking fun at reactionary offended-at-everything Clinton liberals who don't seem to comprehend that the United States of America does not endow its people with the right to not be offended.

    If anything, this retraction of some of your literally brain-dead points scares me the most; it confirms that you were in fact serious to begin with, and you *were* in fact one of those reactionary offended-at-everything Clinton liberals who doesn't seem to comprehend that you do not have the right as an American citizen to not be offended.

    The Supreme Court has upheld throughout the years that the First Amendment protects only *educated* free speech (the same idea that says yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is not free speech). To that end, it's questionable whether you even really have the right to post such trash for public viewing.

    Incidentally, you really haven't answered how you truly believed that a metal band, or any band, could become wildly popular in the span of three weeks, much less write and record an entire album with songs praising bioterrorism. Most of us have known about the Anthrax (the powder) scare for less than two weeks. As a musician, I can tell you with utmost certainty that not even the worst boy-band album can't be conceived, written, recorded, produced, manufactured, and distributed in less than two weeks.

    Did you also happen to notice that, in the span of those two weeks, Anthrax (the band) just happened to conceive, write, record, produce, manufacture, and distribute *sixteen* studio albums in those same two weeks? I certainly hope that Adequacy doesn't pay you for your work, because if you were a professional journalist working for me, you'd be looking for another job right now.

    Oh, and by the way, the fact that Anthrax.com didn't offer you information about the bacteria is not the fault of Anthrax (the band), the CDC, the US government, or the Internet. That, if anything, is the common misconception you mention in your original article. Blame it on what has kept this country great for 200 years (and what has kept people like you in such cushioned comfort that you have time to do all your crack research): Capitalism. When Anthrax (the band) wanted Anthrax.com, and it was available, they paid the money to get it, and they got it. You get rid of capitalism, you get rid of America. And I for one will fight to the death to stop you or anyone from doing that.

    I can't stress enough that you DO NOT have the right to not be offended in this country. If you did, the First Amendment would certainly look different, if it existed at all. You certainly do have the right to *say* that you're offended by something, but I question *why* you're offended. Anthrax (the bacteria) has always been something that will kill you - did Anthrax (the band) enjoy nearly 20 years of success without your resistance because *you* didn't know anything about Anthrax (the bacteria) until two weeks ago? And for that matter, why is it suddenly "offensive" or "insensitive" to use the word Anthrax now just because it's in the news? To me, it's more offensive that in the United States of America, I need to tread lightly for the rest of my life because you are so "politically-correct" that you instantly become offended on behalf of the millions of people in this country who don't have the capacity to hear the word "Anthrax" without passing out. Who died and made you ombudsman for the sensitivity of the world?

    In fact, looking at the responses you got on the first article (the guy who has his church youth group going door-to-door now on solely your word, that alone speaks volumes about his religion), if you were a real journalist you'd know that what you wrote qualifies as defamation, and I wouldn't be surprised if Anthrax (the band) was within their rights to sue you for losses generated by people believing your outright lies. I am not an Anthrax (the band) listener, but after your article, I'm thinking about starting.

    In fact, let's revise the whole article: I'm deeply offended by your refined hatred, and offended further that you let your hatred grow out of proportion toward things you don't fully understand. I'm further offended by your suggestion that we go out and restrict the rights of other people by filling them with negative hate thoughts about Anthrax (the band) and preventing them from feeling comfortable with giving the music a chance to see if it's right for them, as is their right in this country. And I'm incensed beyond belief that your unresearched, ignorant hate speech about a group of people you don't understand has garnered a powerful following on this website, your words being so powerful that hundreds of people have aligned with your cause on your lies and half-truths alone. I'm livid that your position as a contributor here on Adequacy has served to convince people that you are somehow an authority on the subject of Anthrax (the band), and has served to artificially validate your position as an authority on the subject. And I am saddened that for all your drivel about how hateful and hurtful and offensive Anthrax (the band) is, your words and suggestions are themselves hateful and hurtful, and they themselves offend.

    In the spirit of your original article, therefore, I suggest we all boycott Adequacy.org, and get our news and commentary from other sources. Once we hit Adequacy.org where it hurts - the pocketbook - maybe they'll finally get the message that we don't accept their hateful, hurtful, insensitive and offensive message and do something about it.

    You know about Monster.com, right? I pray that you'll need it in the near future.

    "I was at the Yankee game (game 4 against Seattle) last night and so many cops came up to me and said, 'Don't change your name for f**kin' nuthin'!!!'"
    -- Scott Ian, ANTHRAX (the band)


    - A concerned 26-year-old broadcaster and Libertarian


    Frightening. (5.00 / 1) (#24)
    by nx01 on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 09:22:40 AM PST
    The Supreme Court has upheld throughout the years that the First Amendment protects only *educated* free speech (the same idea that says yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater is not free speech). To that end, it's questionable whether you even really have the right to post such trash for public viewing.

    It's okay to say anything, as long as it agrees with my viewpoint on life. Don't say anything I don't agree with, and we don't have a problem. War is peace, ignorance is strength, freedom is slavery, eh? How incredibly Libertarian of you.

    Please. In this country we have the right to speak our minds, whether you agree with it or not. If you don't like this situation, I'd suggest you relocate to somewhere with politics more akin to your authoritarian viewpoint.


    "Every time I look at the X window system, it's so fucking stupid; and part of me feels responsible for the worst parts of it."
    -- James Gosling

     
    Wait... (none / 0) (#33)
    by noah Oneye on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 11:23:33 AM PST
    I thought it was a brilliantly-written parody, poking fun at reactionary offended-at-everything Clinton liberals who don't seem to comprehend that the United States of America does not endow its people with the right to not be offended. If anything, this retraction of some of your literally brain-dead points scares me the most; it confirms that you were in fact serious to begin with...

    No it doesn't. If I print a mock correction of a mock article, the article doesn't automatically lose it's tongue-in-cheekedness. It becomes even funnier...


    "...and in your free time you can make me sandwiches..."

     
    well said (none / 0) (#40)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 02:59:31 PM PST
    This guy has it right. While the ignorant keep grasping at straws in a pathetic attempt to stabilize their shakey conservative viewpoint (yet another demonstration of why conservatism is just emotional greed), its comforting to know some some people are interested and willing to invest effort in actually understanding current events and respecting the scope of various viewpoints.


     
    AMEN (0.00 / 2) (#60)
    by Anonymous Reader on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 11:00:26 AM PST
    AMEN BROTHER, HAIL TO YOU!! you said exactly what I was thinking!!! Bless you rwriting skills (the 26 year-old librarian) FUCK YOU DMG you stupid asshole fag!
    oopps! i said fag now im gay-bashing..so what, fuck you too hahaha.

    fuck racism, facism, sexism, or any ism is just plain stupidism (for lack of a better word) why hate only some people...be fair hat them all. GOD BLESS AMERICA!! And Your next Bin Laden and all your jihad fucks!!


     
    This apology does not address my concerns (5.00 / 2) (#25)
    by Adam Rightmann on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 10:09:10 AM PST
    It only serves to point out that Anthrax has been doing the devil's work for 29 years, instead of 1 year. It is a good example of spin doctoring, with which I will have to include in my forthcoming series: A satanic history of heavey metal.

    For those of you interested, or who want to help me with this work, here is my tentative outline:
    • The beginnings, Alastair Crowley's lead disciple: Jimmy Page.
    • The link is obvious: Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead
    • Satanic Hair Bands of the 80's: Ozzy Osbourne, Motley Crue, Anthrax, Slayer, Judas Priest.


    Any information on heavey metal bands in the 1990's would be most appreciated.


    A. Rightmann

    Foo. (1.50 / 2) (#26)
    by tkatchev on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 10:20:06 AM PST
    It's spelled "heavy". (Not "heavey".)


    --
    Peace and much love...




    Thank you for the correction (5.00 / 2) (#27)
    by Adam Rightmann on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 10:28:06 AM PST
    though I will not abuse my editorial privileges by erasing my posts, I will remember that for the future.


    A. Rightmann

     
    Doesn't really matter (5.00 / 2) (#28)
    by dmg on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 10:28:38 AM PST
    Either way, it makes me heave.

    time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
    -- MC Hawking

    you (1.00 / 1) (#64)
    by Anonymous Reader on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 10:03:59 PM PST
    <tt>make me heave</tt>


     
    U Suck (0.50 / 2) (#31)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 11:08:14 AM PST
    I think u Suck... Anthrax a satanist metal band?
    ahahahaaa
    try to listen to some black metal, such as marduk, impaled nazarene, mayhem, etc.
    this is satanist!!!

    Skeja


     
    rightmann indeed (2.50 / 2) (#44)
    by YOUARESTUPID on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 07:53:01 PM PST
    you haven't done any of your homework. you knew that tidbit about jimmy page, but led zepplin referenced jesus more than they did any "black magik". You seem to think that the mention of the name black sabbath is a proof in and of itself-but, you must not have known that ozzy, though he has had his problems (demons-if you show me someone who hasn't wrestled a few of their own i'll show you a liar), has been christian all his life. Many BLACK SABBATH songs are about believing in god and protesting evils like WAR & GREED & IGNORANCE OF OTHERS. In fact, this has been a model for heavy metal bands since the genres inception. (which started with black sabbath, not led zepplin). many bands have taken the "shock" route in either naming thier band or in thier band's respective fundamental elements (dress, stageshow, etc.). The likes of which-Alice Cooper (a devout christian), Megadeth (dave mustain, also a devout christian), napalm death (the name itself is a warning), and many others (anthrax-a warning realized). Anthrax themselves have (being citizens of new york) been more tolerant than many have. They have warned against racism, ignorance and religious zealots. I hope you will exercise better judgement, as well as RESEARCHING SKILLS, in the future. Religious zealots started this "war" and they WILL NOT END IT. Intelligent, well timed decisions will. I defend your right to print what ever you want, but neither I, the bible I stand by, or the community I am PROUD to belong to (the metal community) will stand for ignorant, unfounded, unresearched drivel. Scream satan all you want... he just may rear his ugly head.


     
    Brilliant (none / 0) (#57)
    by crossbreaker on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 06:34:06 AM PST
    Hey, Faulkner, I've got a great idea, too. I'm working on a historical novel set in the Civil War. Here's a tentative outline:

    * Civil war erupts. Brother turns against brother.
    * Lincoln struggles to hold the Union together.
    * Sherman burns some cities in Georgia or something.
    * Space Monkeys from Neptune descend upon Appomattox, just as the Southern forces are about to lay down their muskets; suddenly confronted by an alien menace, Americans must put aside their petty differences to defend their planet.
    * Jimmy Page joins Black Sabbath and defiles virgins while burning churches under a full moon. No, seriously.

    You are a very special person.


     
    Heavey Metal (none / 0) (#86)
    by Anonymous Reader on Mon Oct 29th, 2001 at 01:04:35 AM PST
    How can anyone (including yourself) believe you have a scrap of credibility when you can't even spell the word HEAVY? Anthrax has never sang about Satan, except in a protest song to protest censorship. In that song they only say Satan to make a point, not to praise "The Darkone." What does Aleister Crowley have to do with Jimmy Page? Crowley died in 1947, Jimmy Page was born in 1944. I don't know, but I bet it's hard to be a "lead disciple" when you are three, unless Jimmy Page is a genius in more ways than one.

    Come to think about it I don't even know why I am doing your fact checking for you. Anyone who believes you is obviously a moron who can't think for themselves.


    SOD (none / 0) (#137)
    by Anonymous Reader on Mon Nov 19th, 2001 at 10:59:03 PM PST
    Dude,

    Before you guys get too happy saying Anthrax has never sang about the Devil, let's remember our buddies SOD (essentially an Anthrax reunion band, right?). Latest album, "Bigger than the Devil".

    It fucking rocks, too.


     
    lyrics (none / 0) (#127)
    by Jono on Thu Nov 1st, 2001 at 11:45:09 PM PST
    you know clearly jimmy page was not satanic clearly.
    but anyway sometimes you can't tell what the real meaning of lyrics are so you have to listen to them with an open mind. Ian Anderson from Jethro Tull put it best when he said "What you get from the lines of a song can be very different than what they were intended to mean" like in one of his songs he says "flying so high" many people thought he was saying he was doing drugs but when you listen to the rest of the words you find he's realy talking about rushing to the studio to record a song.
    It's easy to misconstrue lyrics but I do believe the lines from theise two performers is easily understandable
    Anthrax: Get off my case and judge yourself no one else, kill someone save a life, don't do drugs drink all night, worship jesus praise satan, opinions are all contradiction

    Black Sabbath: I've seen the truth, yes I've seen the light and I've changed my ways. I'll be prepared when you're lonely and scared at the end of our days.



     
    Heavy metal bands in the 90s (none / 0) (#136)
    by Anonymous Reader on Mon Nov 19th, 2001 at 10:55:55 PM PST
    Don't know anything. I'll tell you this, though. I have been a practicing Satanist for about 10 years now, and I'll gladly burn in hell for all eternity. That's where all my friends are gonna be. Heh.

    An I do listen to a variety of music, including Iron Maiden. Now, if you actually bother to listen to Iron Maiden, one of the first things you'll notice, no doubt, is that they are a group of serious practicing Christians.

    Thought you might also be interested to know that ever since Anton LaVey founded the Church of Satan, being a satanist has everything to do with not liking Christianity and nothing to do with your Christian devil. If you can find out what the word "Anthropomorphic" means, you might be smart enough to read the Satanic Bible.

    Oh yeah, just an afterthought. My personal opinion is that most people are inherently good. This is contrary to the Christian believe that all people are sinners and must repent. Does that make me evil?

    Send me to hell.


     
    complete idiocy... (1.00 / 2) (#29)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 10:57:17 AM PST
    DMG, you are without a doubt one of the most ignorant, close minded, idiotic, propaganda spreading fucking assholes on the internet....
    It is obvious that ANY logical, intelligent argument pointing out your writing's seemingly endless lies and blatant ignorance is a complete waste of time, as you and all your 'PC' right wing friends are BEYOND REASON.

    YOU NEED TO SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP!




     
    you are rignt! (none / 0) (#30)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 11:05:25 AM PST
    DMG, you are %100 correct! these evil heavy metal men need to be stopped! their band names are very offensive to god fearing citizens like us!
    i would also like to submit a petition to ban the following as they are offensive as well:

    Grateful Dead (what assholes! do you think the people from the WTC are grateful!) These NEW bands have such nerve!

    The Die Hard movies: they should have postponed the release of these or at least changed the name before they came out! how rude!

    Aladin-this is a KIDS movie that promotes terrorism! it is about a MIDDLE EASTERN TERRORISTS!!! AHHHHH!!! BAN IT!!!!

    Airplane:this movie is supposed to be funny! how dare they release this AFTER these horrible attacks!


    in fact, we should ban EVERYTHING because chances are everything in existance offends someone and reminds them of the WTC attacks...BURN ALL MUSIC CD's AND BOOKS!!!!
    BAN BAN BAN CENSOR EVERTHING DOWN WITH FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION DOWN WITH FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!! lets just pretend i DONT SOUND LIKE A NAZI HERE!!! BAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    yourareright (0.00 / 2) (#45)
    by YOUARESTUPID on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:03:55 PM PST
    Drinks to you friend. BAN IT ALL AND WATCH THE TERRORISTS REALLY WIN.


     
    really up to date (none / 0) (#35)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 11:36:31 AM PST
    DMG first of you're a moron. Secondly, you're an idiot.

    The is a GREAT news site. Yeah, one that is sooo up to date. BIOHAZARD has been around for FRIGGIN YEARS, dumbass! I went to see them in concert not that long ago.

    Their music involves NOTHING about terrorism or checmical warfare as you might get from their name. It's mostly about the hardships many people face in life. Dealing with society, lost love (because of death), etc.

    Maybe if you jack-offs didn't live in a cave you might have realised that the world has changed quite a lot in the last 20 years. Maybe then you'll be more up to date. Especially in regards to programmers, and Unix/Linux/OSS users too.

    I listen to Biohazard and I'm not a kid. Hell, I'mm 29 and my brother (who listen to them as well) is 32.


     
    Anthrax (2.00 / 2) (#36)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 12:11:05 PM PST
    DMG,

    The fact that you wrote such a snobbish response to us Anthrax fans doesn't please us anymore. Not that we are looking to be pleased, but we are looking for a group of people that we greatly support to not be lumped into something they are not.

    But first, I must adress something. The death threats that you say that you have recieved I would like to apologize for. I did not send any and I wish them not to come true. However, calling them morons does not make you any better than them.

    3/4 of Anthrax are natives of New York. The band will be playing at a benefit show with many other NY hard rock/metal acts to raise money for victims, families, etc. Just what have you done?

    Anthrax are no supporters of terrorism nor are they terrorists. The reason why they aren't changing their name is because they want NOTHING else to happen.

    Let's talk about a singer that you might be a fan of. If a serial killer named MICHAEL BOLTON was on the loose, should MICHAEL BOLTON (the singer) change his name? No. Would he? No. This is the same as anthrax and Anthrax.

    In response to your smartassed remarks about the errors in your first article...

    You forgot to mention that SPREADING THE DISEASE came out a shred under two decades ago.

    If you listen to the different generes of metal (speed, thrash, grindcore, etc), you will HEAR CLEARLY that there is a difference.

    As for you rallying for readers not to buy the band's records, that will not hurt them because you never bought them in the first place. The fanbase of the band has always been how the band has sold records.

    below me, buck fudder.

    www.anthrax.com for all of your METAL needs.




    absolutely ridiculous. (5.00 / 2) (#41)
    by philipm on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 03:16:22 PM PST
    Have you no shame? How can you possibly advocate the viewpoint that Anthrax should not change their name?
    Do you have any idea of what responsibility is?
    The whole reason the band is called Anthrax was because the founders thought to TAKE ADVANTAGE of exactly such a tragedy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you name yourself after a weapon of mass distruction, and then someone actually uses that weapon, you will cash in big time on the publicity. This is precisely the purpose of this name. Get a clue.
    Or better yet just call yourself "date rapist" you stupid oppressor. We will see how far your carelessly gay attitude takes you then.

    Have you no shame? Is there not tragedy that you will not take advantage of ?


    --philipm

    gay? (none / 0) (#46)
    by Anonymous Reader on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 08:26:44 PM PST
    now you're gay bashing? wow. talk about OFFENSIVE.

    how hypocritcal to tell a band to change their name because it's offensive and turn around and call someone gay. why not just call me a faggot? or maybe there are some african american readers... could you call them niggers?

    take a look at yourself.


    hello? is anyone home? (5.00 / 1) (#55)
    by philipm on Fri Oct 26th, 2001 at 05:41:35 AM PST
    GAY means happy and careless. Take a look in the dictionary you stupid wigger.

    I am looking at myself. I see truth beauty and justice. What do you see?


    --philipm

    Hypocrite (none / 0) (#69)
    by Anonymous Reader on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 05:54:22 PM PST
    heh, yay, try to save yourself from one insult you make, but then make one that's just as stupid.

    what I see in you....well, look at the subject line.

    and as for myself? I see an american citizen who served for 3 years on a S.A.R. team, preparing to pull people out of the burning wreckage of fallen aircraft or for disaster relief. Fortunately the only real action in that respect we saw was flooding in Cincinnati, to which we were deployed for sandbagging.

    My team was also going through "preliminary hazardous materials recovery" training. Which means if a military plane that was carrying nuclear waste or chemical weapons went down and we were there first, we got to secure the area for cleanup. Part of the training was videos.....Have you ever actually seen anyone die of anthrax? VX? Sarin? radiation poisoning? (I'm asking ALL of you...not just this person) I have; rather unpleasant ways to go. This being said, I have very strong feelings about weapons of mass destruction, but I believe that almost everyone here is overreacting. The name may be tasteless right now in the eyes of some, but I have no problem with it. Anthrax is a naturally occuring disease which was only really recently made into a weapon.

    If you feel so strongly about it, we might as well ban all mention of it ANYWHERE...that along with atomic weapons (and all other weapons of mass destruction, or any other disease that has caused fatalities in the past), airplanes, United, American Airlines (those two are obviously at fault, as it was their aircraft that the terrorists used to attack the U.S. with)...you get my point.


    your point is dull (none / 0) (#75)
    by philipm on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 06:26:48 AM PST
    No, I do not get your point.

    I may not be as knowledgeable about anthrax as you, but I do know one thing! American Airlines is not Anthrax Airlines. American Airlines is not small pox, scud, or nucular Airlines.

    Anthrax is the name of a weapon of mass-destruction. Whatever the situation was in the past, now that is absolutely clear to everyone. Why is your band named after a weapon of mass-destruction? Don't you get it? You don't get to decide what words mean. No one cares about your tortured reasoning about why you should keep on being lazy.

    Humanity is a naturally occuring disease. What's your point?


    --philipm

    M.A.D.? (none / 0) (#76)
    by DiaphramPlatypus on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 03:17:59 PM PST
    so Anthrax was invented in the 1800's (believe it was 1800's, but could've been earlier) by a british scientist as a weapon of mass-destruction?


    inventing is a liberal myth (none / 0) (#77)
    by philipm on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 03:34:30 PM PST
    "Inventing" something is nonsense terminology.
    When radiation was first "invented" was it for good purposes or for bad purposes?

    I'll give you the answer: most of our current technological advances were first invented for good purposes. Now they have been perverted for bad purposes by the human race - what a surprise.

    Furthermore, you can not "invent" a natural phenomena. You can only see it. And after you see it, nature can turn it against you by accident, or the rest of the human race can pervert this knowledge against you.

    Anthrax are shameful hypocrites. Just like most heavy rock bands they suffer from delusions of importance. The sad thing about them is the extent of their contribution to society consists of making people think back to something horrible that has happened and in making people relive a horrible tragedy.


    Do you distribute blueprints to suitcase nukes?
    No? Then don't call yourself Anthrax, either.


    --philipm

    Sarcasm (none / 0) (#79)
    by DiaphramPlatypus on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 03:39:43 PM PST
    I was being sarcastic by using the term "invented".

    Most people who go off on anthrax talk about how it was "invented". I made the mistake of assuming the same here.


     
    actually... (none / 0) (#95)
    by Icarus on Mon Oct 29th, 2001 at 04:46:22 AM PST
    Anthrax doesn't make me think back on a horrible tragedy that I have to relive. I just like to smile and listen to the song "I'm the Man."


     
    bah, stupid enter key (I really need to reformat) (none / 0) (#78)
    by DiaphramPlatypus on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 03:35:27 PM PST
    Anyway, that was my friend using my computer last night. He was visiting for the night as a stop-point while driving from university to his parents' house. I believe that what he was trying to say was something along the lines of "Anthrax occurs naturally and has been around for a great deal longer than many are led to belive" and thusly "Weapon Of Mass Destruction" is a misnomer(don't know if I agree with that point....but if you think about it, the flu or any other disease-causing agent could be tweaked and used the same way, but it's not considered a W.O.M.D.)

    He just woke up and tells me that he was thinking that if people are going to be getting worked up over something so immediately insignificant to their lives, we might as well ban all mention of things relating to the terrorist attacks, as they will undoubtedly offend SOMEONE somewhere (just like the entertainment industry is banning movies, games, and T.V. shows because they either 1) take place in or around the WTC or 2) deals with terrorism...even if the terrorists are the 'badguys'). This also extends this to all mention of any W.O.M.D. and anything else that could concievably be used as a weapon by terrorists.


     
    wigger? (none / 0) (#71)
    by Anonymous Reader on Sat Oct 27th, 2001 at 10:42:11 PM PST
    you've only proved my point further.

    "wigger" is a white person trying to act urban. it is primarily derived from the word "nigger". racism at it's finest.

    however, a "wigger" is something i am not. the stereotypical "wigger" wears baggy clothes, hangs out at malls, smokes pot and listens to rap music. none of which i do.


    black people have a propensity for niggerism (none / 0) (#74)
    by philipm on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 06:19:25 AM PST
    Dude, I'm getting very tired of black people calling me nigger. All they do is yell "Hey! that's my nigger!" all the time and slap me on the back. I'm so pissed off at this juvenile behaviour that I am going to call every stupid black person I meet, a wigger.


    --philipm

    Re: (none / 0) (#85)
    by Anonymous Reader on Sun Oct 28th, 2001 at 11:30:14 PM PST
    Dude, I'm getting very tired of black people calling me nigger. All they do is yell "Hey! that's my nigger!" all the time and slap me on the back. I'm so pissed off at this juvenile behaviour that I am going to call every stupid black person I meet, a wigger.

    Dear White collar suburban American racist,

    i bet you're going to do that and get your ass kicked and your teeth knocked out. i know if i was black and you called me a wigger, you would be on the floor.

    and i'm sure you run into very many black people at your office or when you avoid them on the street and at malls.

    also, you would sound very stupid since, as i said before, a wigger is a white person trying to act black. get it right.

    Steve M.


    wigger suprise? (none / 0) (#90)
    by philipm on Mon Oct 29th, 2001 at 04:17:16 AM PST
    are you a black wigger?


    --philipm

    WIGGER.. (none / 0) (#102)