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Votes: 14

 Peace Protestors

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Oct 21, 2001
I found this on San Francisco's very own Craigslist while awfully bored at work.

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With all of this talk of impending war, many of us will encounter "Peace Activists" who will try and convince us that we must refrain from retaliating against the ones who terrorized us all on September 11, 2001.

These activists may be alone or in a gathering.....most of us don't know how to react to them. When you come upon one of these people, or one of their rallies, here are the proper rules of etiquette:
1. Listen politely while this person explains their views. Strike up a conversation if necessary and look very interested in their ideas. They will tell you how revenge is immoral, and that by attacking the people who did this to us, we will only bring on more violence. They will probably use many arguments, ranging from political to religious to humanitarian.
2. In the middle of their remarks, without any warning, punch them in the nose.
3. When the person gets up off of the ground, they will be very angry and they may try to hit you, so be careful.
4. Very quickly and calmly remind the person that violence only brings about more violence and remind them of their stand on this matter. Tell them if they are really committed to a non-violent approach to undeserved attacks, they will turn the other cheek and negotiate a solution. Tell them they must lead by example if they really believe what they are saying.
5. Most of them will think for a moment and then agree that you are correct.
6. As soon as they do that, hit them again. Only this time hit them much harder. Square in the nose.
7. Repeat steps 2-5 until the desired results are obtained and the idiot realizes how stupid of an argument he/she is making.
8. There is no difference in an individual attacking an unsuspecting victim or a group of terrorists attacking a nation of people. It is unacceptable and must be dealt with. Perhaps at a high cost. We owe our military a huge debt for what they are about to do for us and our children. We must support them and our leaders at times like these. We have no choice. We either strike back, VERY HARD, or we will keep getting hit in the nose.


hmph... (none / 0) (#1)
by legolas on Sun Oct 21st, 2001 at 08:31:52 PM PST
This better not have anything to do my story.

Because if it does...


Nope (none / 0) (#2)
by egg troll on Sun Oct 21st, 2001 at 08:40:43 PM PST
Actually I posted this before I read your story. I think we understand one another's viewpoints now, don't you? :)

Posting for the love of the baby Jesus....

Probably not. (none / 0) (#3)
by legolas on Sun Oct 21st, 2001 at 08:46:39 PM PST
I assume you probably consider me some kind of dirty hippie scum. Unfortunately, those views are FRAUDULENT. Let me assure you, I enjoy capitalism as much as the next guy.


Nice link (none / 0) (#8)
by sdem on Mon Oct 22nd, 2001 at 07:36:44 PM PST
That was good for a laugh or two, even in the jaded mood I'm in right now.

So have you actually done this? (5.00 / 2) (#4)
by elenchos on Sun Oct 21st, 2001 at 10:28:16 PM PST
Do you really talk to them? Have you actually hit someone? Or are you just a wanker who posts Walter Mitty fantasies on the Internet?

I have enormous respect for pacifists who are willing to go into the streets and stand up for what they believe, knowing full well how unpopular their views are, and how much danger they face from violent reactionaries who really will terrorize and assault them in response to their words.

They have nothing whatsoever to fear from net.windbags, I'll grant that. There's no bigger coward than a cheerleader who anonymously posts that "we" should go kick ass, and "we" have to fight back, and "we" should go beat up peace activists. "We" should go join the Army if "we" really mean what "we" say, shouldn't "we"?

I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

Why I wouldn't do it (none / 0) (#5)
by FifthVandal on Mon Oct 22nd, 2001 at 01:21:11 PM PST
pacifists who are willing to go into the streets and stand up for what they believe, knowing full well how unpopular their views are, and how much danger they face from violent reactionaries who really will terrorize and assault them

...and who also know very well that no matter how much they may spout about how evil the state and system supposedly are, they can and will still go crying to the police the minute anyone so much as taps them on the shoulder (not to mention having another good blub to their lawyers - with a view to getting a large damages award).
--- I was the fifth vandal on the grassy knoll!

Sure, we all hate those crybabies. (none / 0) (#7)
by elenchos on Mon Oct 22nd, 2001 at 03:14:49 PM PST
Always whining to the police that they were "assaulted" just because someone punched them, or wanting to have someone arrested for "arson" just because they set their house on fire. Whimpering like little children that their First Amendment rights were "violated" because someone prevented them from speaking.

It is always these "victims" of these "crimes" who are the first to run to the police!

I can see why you would hesitate to beat down the kind of person who would interpret that as "assault and battery" and go try make it into a criminal matter. But that's how they are, you got that right.

All I'm saying is, there is an element in our society who would risk prosecution for these so-called "crimes", and the peaceniks know they're out there. Thus, the peaceniks know full well what danger they face, and go ahead and protest anyway. Isn't that courage?

Now granted there is the other kind of protestor who cleverly goes out into the streets chanting for pacifism with the cynical intent of getting severely beaten by a gang of affluent Wall Street investment brokerage executives or even super-rich members of the Sam Walton family so they can sue them for millions. Obviously, I'm disgusted whenever I see those kind of peace protestors -- and I spotted four of them just today -- but I was referring to the other kind. The ones who expect to get beaten up and firebombed by rednecks drunk on Natural Lite Beer and living in trailer homes they bought $18,000 and change.

I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

I used to live with one (none / 0) (#13)
by egg troll on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 08:07:41 AM PST
In Eugene I lived with someone who was quite the leftist. I think he is now working to organize unions. Having listening to him numerous times, I've come to the conclusion that he means well, but so did Chamberlain.

If someone wants to go out into the street and voice a different opinion, that's fine. However for the most part, I think their logic is flawed. More often than not its an exercise in misguided self-righteousness.

Posting for the love of the baby Jesus....

Are you admitting the rest is horseshit then? (none / 0) (#15)
by elenchos on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 09:31:06 AM PST
I believe pacifism is not the correct choice as well, but saying that has nothing whatsever to do with this utterly offensive idea of beating them up to change their minds. That's just pig ignorant.

I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

and further... (none / 0) (#19)
by nathan on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 10:05:32 AM PST
Most anti-war activists aren't pacifists. If push comes to shove, so to speak, they'll probably be a lot tougher than you think.

See, the real issue here isn't peace, love, smoke dope vs. Brass-Balled Real Men Who Know What Has To Be Done. The issue is geoplitics and morality, and the attempts by anti-war activists to affect same. The truth is that mindless pro-war yes-men are the real pussified wimps. They're too scared of ostracism and being seen as 'soft' to take a gutsy political stance.

It's possible to be pro-war without being a pussified yes-man. But a follower of any kind is weak and base, and ten times more so if he convinces himself that he believes in the cause, as opposed to cynically going along to get along.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

lame. (none / 0) (#6)
by nathan on Mon Oct 22nd, 2001 at 02:50:52 PM PST
What a yawn, especially since it's been discussed (and for that matter, refuted, nearly two weeks ago) on The sloppy thinking, slovenly grammar, and general crappiness of this diary entry earn it no points.

Back under your bridge, troll. And, btw, 'egg troll' is about as stupid a handle as it gets. What's next, are you going to set somebody up the bomb?

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

Nit-pick (none / 0) (#9)
by Starship Trooper on Mon Oct 22nd, 2001 at 11:01:19 PM PST
That should be "set up somebody the bomb."
A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace, and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace

Yes, yes, yes! (none / 0) (#10)
by tkatchev on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 04:43:16 AM PST
I get to be the first!

In A.D. 2101 War was beginning. Captain: What happen ? Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb Operator: We get signal Captain: What ! Operator: Main screen turn on Captain: It's You !! Cats: How are you gentlemen !! Cats: All your base are belong to us Cats: You are on the way to destruction Captain: What you say !! Cats: You have no chance to survive make your time Cats: HA HA HA HA .... Captain: Take off every 'zig' Captain: You know what you doing Captain: Move 'zig' Captain: For great justice

Whoopee, now do I get to win some sort of special g**k prize?

Peace and much love...

No prize, just a great big Fuck You (none / 0) (#17)
by dmg on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 05:54:45 AM PST
From all the adequacy editors who are trying to keep this site troll free.

Bringing up 'all your base are belong to us' in a forum such as adequacy is the mark of a lower class individual, the like of which adequacy could well do without.

Do you really think we needed to read your post. Did it really add anything to the overall quality of the adequacy experience ?

time to give a Newtonian demonstration - of a bullet, its mass and its acceleration.
-- MC Hawking

I agree (none / 0) (#20)
by Anonymous Reader on Thu Nov 1st, 2001 at 03:21:50 PM PST
now shut the fuck up.

re: nitpick (none / 0) (#18)
by nathan on Thu Oct 25th, 2001 at 09:59:04 AM PST
Honestly, I'm proud that I got it wrong. I put up with so much of that stupid AYBABTU shit back when I was an undergrad that it's calcified back in the ol' ganglia, but I never paid much attention.

Li'l Sis: Yo, that's a real grey area. Even by my lax standards.

come on (5.00 / 2) (#11)
by johnny ambiguous on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 03:27:06 PM PST
Well you've talked me into it. Going out into the streets and finding a peace rally to join, that is.

Now I personally can't imagine any possible way you could kill too many of those women-hating Taleban fucks, barring that somebody dreams up a working scheme to kill them, bring them back to life, kill them again, resuscitate them again, kill them again, etc., etc., which would perhaps seem too severe, but it's practically impossible anyway. And as far as "respecting" in some kind of "multicultural" sense the Talebs's disgusting and deeply sexually-perverted parody of a religion, I'm no more likely to do that than I am to believe that Pat Robertson honestly, inwardly, believes in the existence of that "God" whom he employs to milk so many millions of dollars from so many millions of morons.

As a matter of fact, unlike the U.S. right-wing, which has flip-flopped on this particular good-guy/bad-guy issue as blithely as Orwell's Minitrue, I have consistently hated those fuckers as far back as a decade and a half ago, when Ronald Reagan was publicly addressing them as "the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers."

So while I do have serious misgivings about the U.S. bombing campaign as it is being conducted, especially those strikes in civilian-choked cities - seems like that's exactly what the ObL gang hungrily wants, great piles of dead Moslem civilians heaped up in windrows, so it's only common sense to refuse such a public-relations coup to them - at the very least I am somewhat ambivalent about taking the stance that "the bombing must stop completely now!" and so on.

But. See, I've been traduced so ceaselessly these last few weeks, in every news medium known to Western man, by one after another of these God damned shit-eating right-wingers, that is to say by the very same stupid cocksuckers who, from the late seventies through the early nineties established and funded and armed those psycho Islamic-fundamentalist mass-murderers in the first place, that I have lost not just patience but restraint. I mean I'm about ready to bust a fucking gasket here.

So OK, cool, the plan is, I'll walk down the street with a big old peace sign on a poster board stapled to a wood stick. Maybe I'll drill out the stick first and run a nice length of 5/8" re-bar up the length of it. And then, I can hope, at least one of the morons who keeps reposting this "punch him in the face" horseshit all over the fucking place (and yo moron, do you have to repost that tripe verbatim, don't you even have enough brains to paraphrase it so it sounds original?) will come strutting up, all ruddy with imbecilic "patriotism," thinking in the typical cowardly bully fashion "Oh boy here's somebody I can hit who won't hit me back!," and he'll take a swing at me. Whereupon I'm going to take out all the various frustrations I've been hoarding up these last few miserable years, all over his fucking map.

And when the police come scrape his sorry ass off the asphalt, and they subsequently drag my "pacifist" ass off in cufflinks, I'll have a bunch of witnesses to testify that stupid there, that dumb fuck with the flag t-shirt and the busted-in mug, was the guilty party who threw the first punch, and I'll get off!

So come on.

Yours WDK -

Getting into my Chevrolet Magic Fire, I drove slowly back to the office. - L. Rosen

I am so smart, I am so smart!! (none / 0) (#16)
by tkatchev on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 11:26:54 AM PST
L'economia in culo a gli economisti

Let me guess, that means "the economy is in the ass of the economists"? Did I guess with my non-existent Italian knowledge?

Peace and much love...

Ignorance must be bliss (none / 0) (#12)
by Coolhandmark on Tue Oct 23rd, 2001 at 11:27:14 PM PST
When I first saw the front page of this website I read that it said news for adults or something to that effect. Not soon after did I realize that this was ridiculous. So far in short time ive visited this site, I have not only read the stupidity of posters like "egg roll" and many others, but I have as well realized the great ignorance of this website. It came to my attention that this site criticized the heavy metal band "Anthrax" due to their "cashing in" on bioterrorism in the media recently. Now Im not a fan of this band, but how can a website that tries to be educated and discuss topics be so ignorant? Anthrax created their name almost 20 years ago. And yet they are now "cashing in" on bioterrorism. How foolish is this website?

Even though Adequacy has a no trolling policy... (1.66 / 3) (#14)
by egg troll on Wed Oct 24th, 2001 at 08:10:19 AM PST
Regarding that Anthrax posting...YHBT. YHL. HAND.

Posting for the love of the baby Jesus....


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