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What religion is best for Frithiof?
Asatru 7%
Atheism 14%
Buddhism 14%
Mormonism (the cult, not the legitimate one) 14%
Islam 7%
Judaism 7%
Wicca 7%
Self-worship 28%

Votes: 14

 It happened AGAIN...

 Author:  Topic:  Posted:
Oct 15, 2001
I went to see my psychologist again and I got the same lines from her. In fact, she acknowledged to me that I knew more about myself (and this alleged disease) and that there was little, if any, point in going to see her any more. This unfortunately affirms the comments made in another diary entry of mine.

I have thus come to the inescapable conclusion that shrinks are, in my particular case, utterly useless. If I need to whine and get my 850+ words out, I can probably do it here and save myself a few bucks.


More diaries by Frithiof
Crackdown on Terrorism in the USA?
It seems I have a cavity, amongst other things...
How should I define myself?
Semi-yummy Food
Why I am mentally defective and should be shunned in public
What is the Matrix?
The sad truth...
Because I got bored...
I bought a cd today
I hate commies...
Turning Unix into Windows
Are we safe?
IRC; an internet wasteland?
And as another day ends...
On a side note, it has occurred to me that perhaps I should not have gotten confirmed as a Catholic. I should have done more research on the subject beforehand. Now I am doomed to live a life of shame.


The only reason (5.00 / 1) (#1)
by chloedancer on Mon Oct 15th, 2001 at 09:09:46 PM PST
for seeing a therapist/psychologist/counselor is to have an independent party you can work with to develop new skills/coping mechanisms to deal with any situation/condition that you feel you're not managing particularly well. They're there for you to discuss situations that make you uncomfortable and to basically help you to develop and practice new tools/responses to those situations so you don't get stuck in the oh-so-delightrful trap of continuing to do the same thing over and over again. They can't change the condition, but they can help you to learn to modify your response.

If any therapist isn't capable of assisting you in this manner, they're not worth your time or money and you're better off finding someone else who recognizes this preferred outcome from a therapeutic relationship.

I really don't think anything is wrong with you (5.00 / 1) (#2)
by CorporateRepublic on Mon Oct 15th, 2001 at 09:50:33 PM PST
I said this before in your last diary entry (although that was only in response to your comment on getting massive erections near good looking women), but I don't think there is really anything wrong with you.

Most psychologists seem to be quacks if you ask me, but that's beside the point. What is really wrong with you? That you use UNIX? That you have Asperger's Syndrome? Some of the things you mentioned in your last post about this don't seem to be negative conditions. In fact, I am not convinced AS is a disease, but an alternate brain neurology (or some such) that could be the next step of evolution.

I could have written a good deal of your previous diary entry on AS (although I have never been diagnosed with AS and doubt I would be). I think the best thing for you is to post your diary entries here, save some money, and develop your own solutions.

As a side point... (4.00 / 1) (#3)
by CorporateRepublic on Mon Oct 15th, 2001 at 09:52:28 PM PST
I doubt being confirmed Catholic has any effect on this. I was confirmed Catholic too, and I am not living a life a shame.

perhaps so... (none / 0) (#4)
by Frithiof on Mon Oct 15th, 2001 at 10:07:54 PM PST
I've toyed with that higher evolution theory before, much to the dismay of some of my friends. I know a girl who claims to be of Aryan descent and said to me at one time that her people are the epitome of human evolution; unfortunately, that same girl was very, very promiscuous, contracted a venereal disease or two, and pretty much ended any possible chance of having children and allowing her genetic code to live on.

I, on the other hand, am a firm believer in the no sex until marriage concept. Not only because of religious doctrine that has been pressed upon my fragile mind at a young age, but because there is a bit of logic to it. If I'm not going around and screwing everybody I meet, there's an incredibly small chance that I'll either, a) catch a venereal disease, b1) get someone pregnant, and b2) possibly end up getting married in wedlock and/or disgrace. My chances of survival [and that of my children] will also be a lot higher if the girls who I choose to procreate with are of good upbringing (well-educated and open-minded) and health.


I hate to brag, but... (3.00 / 2) (#5)
by elenchos on Mon Oct 15th, 2001 at 10:42:54 PM PST
I quick glance at this bit of dialogue (just skim past the crapflooders) will convince you that I am gifted with an uncanny ability to peer deep into the human psyche.

I think a good place to begin would be to give me some idea of what sort of person you would like to become. How much mental deviancy would you like to address? What perversion do you think makes you most crazy? Let's begin there.

I do, I do, I do
--Bikini Kill

the sort of person I'd like to be... (none / 0) (#6)
by Frithiof on Mon Oct 15th, 2001 at 11:08:23 PM PST
is somewhat so enigmatic, so attractive, so believable, that people will do just about anything I tell them to, even if it involves drinking arsenic-laced kool-aid. I'd also like to be a billionaire like Bill Gates.


fade to black (5.00 / 3) (#7)
by loverman on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 12:18:15 AM PST
Last Friday while driving to Redmond, my commute was severely prolonged by a woman who decided to throw herself off of the 520 bridge. Now despondent bridge jumpers aren't unusual where I live. And suicides from the Aurora and I-5 Ship Canal bridges are nearly always successful.

But the 520 is a floating bridge. And so the woman fell all of about 8 feet and splashed harmlessly into Lake Washington.

So what does this have to do with you? Perhaps nothing. But mental illness/disease can fuck up traffic real bad. So please keep paying that shrink and whining on Adequacy. And if at some point it all becomes too much, at least have the good sense and decency to pick a bridge with sufficient height, and not during the morning commute.

What is truth? - Pontius Pilate

Want a Great Looking Site? (none / 0) (#8)
by Frithiof on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 07:54:55 AM PST
"Want a great looking site? We have partnered to bring you some of the best site templates
around. Have a professional design sent to you in 3 minutes."

I found this today when I went to edit my website. It was stuck right at the top of my user menu. I think they're trying to say something to me.


Do no shameful things, and you will feel no shame (none / 0) (#9)
by Adam Rightmann on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 09:11:12 AM PST
and being confirmed in Catholicism is never a mistake, enjoy that privilege and be a beacon of hope and glory.

As far as the Ausperger's, from my reading on /. that means you have a tendency to get fixated on things, and have poorer interpersonal communications skills. Perhaps you could consider the monkhood?

A. Rightmann

they had something on /. (none / 0) (#10)
by Frithiof on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 10:03:16 AM PST
they had something on slashdot related to this?

yes, I do tend to get fixated and more focused on things than some people do (although this is more than likely a result of not being more social and having any interpersonal activities to take the place of certain fixations, ie. unix, doorknobs, stopwatches, poop, etc.).


It was hard to find (none / 0) (#12)
by Adam Rightmann on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 10:20:45 AM PST
and I ended up finding it via searching on autism instead of Asperberger's. Why Geek Geniuses May Lack Social Graces and LA Tiems columnist says Geek Autism is a Good Thing.

You may find more acceptance and understanding with your peers than with a psychologist, just pick good peers.

A. Rightmann

Not BS, easily explained (Score:2) (none / 0) (#14)
by Frithiof on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 11:55:25 AM PST
by Jabber (from Slashdot | Why geek geniuses may lack social graces)

Here's how I see it.

The field of psychology is fundamentally flawed in that all the bookworms and loners who write the psych dogma are themselves abnormal.

They project, onto those whom they would like to emulate, the definition of 'normal'. Normalcy, per a sub-conscious desire to fit in, is wishfull thinking on part of the psycho-babbler. It is a fictional standard to which they (and so we as sheep) aspire to, based on the image they hold from childhood, of those they wish had been their friends - the social butterflies.

We all know the 'bell curve' model of statistics. We can all make the mental leap of comprehension, and realize that normal, in this context, means 'average' statistically. It explains why the 'popular' kids are always so 'mean' to their peers. Pun intended.

Also, lets consider for a moment that nothing is ever accomplished by the average. Mediocrity barely succeeds in sustaining itself - nevermind driving the world forward. Mediocrity did not put mankind on the moon. The average socialite was home eating bland meatloaf and oatmeal while the geeks and idiot-savants at NASA did the impossible. The mediocre stared in wide-eyed wonder as those they once pushed around, now stood a million miles above them. The different became the better, the Neil Armstrong, the Charles Atlas. They shook and rocked the mediocre status quo, and being average didn't feel so glamorous or popular anymore.

The psychological label of 'average' serves to do only one thing. It bludgeons the outstanding into a cookie-cutter mold of sameness. It homogenizes the radical and exceptional, before they have a chance to give the psychology geek something better than 'average' to aspire towards.

Much as Freud's own screwed up relationship with his parents gave us the Oedipal Complex and Penis Envy, so does the modern label of 'normal' force the better and the different into hiding.

Let's let the psychologists talk. Let's let them broadcars their findings using the technology we developed. Let's let them feel above average, and then let's bitch-slap them down with their own research papers, just for being different and for standing out above the crowd. Let's medicate them for having such disturbing ideas. Obviously, they suffer from ADD, and they must be protected from their own instability. :)

Long live Harrison Bergeron!


actually... (none / 0) (#13)
by Frithiof on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 10:57:36 AM PST
I'm not obsessive-compulsive... I just have a bit of difficulty in large crowds and meeting new people...I'm afraid of those things, for some reason.


Don't sweat it. (none / 0) (#15)
by SpaceGhoti on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 04:48:48 PM PST
My wife has the same problem. She even goes one step further by treating everyone guilty until proven innocent. Guilty of what? She has no clue; only that everyone is looking to trample her down and stab her in the back and the earliest opportunity. Lovely thing to discover in your life partner.

The point is that your symptoms are not even remotely unique. There are lots of people who feel exactly the same way you do. There are lots of reasons why this could be; poor socialization while growing up, bad experiences, chemical imbalances, etc. What I've been trying to remind my wife is that form follows function: if you expect things to go badly, they generally oblige you. If you can re-train your thinking, keep reminding yourself to look at the bright side, you might be able to adjust your own reactions.

Of course, I am not a doctor, and my training in counseling is woefully out of date. I can tell you what works for me and people I know, but it's up to you to find the balance you need.

Best wishes.

A troll's true colors.

eh... (none / 0) (#16)
by Frithiof on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 06:45:08 PM PST
I'm kinda like that...except I treat everyone as innocent until proven guilty. And then once I am sure that they are, without a doubt, guilty of whatever, I treat 'em pretty poorly. I guess I'm kinda flawed in that way.


Innocent until proven guilty (none / 0) (#17)
by SpaceGhoti on Tue Oct 16th, 2001 at 06:53:44 PM PST
So why does this make you abnormal? I'm the same way. I have to convince myself (not just take someone else's word) that someone is guilty of something, at which point I shun them. I try not to do it very often, but it happens now and again.

A troll's true colors.


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